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Old 04-25-2012, 11:02 PM  
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****Official NFL 2012 Draft Thread****

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Old 04-26-2012, 11:12 AM   #136
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For the record, I much prefer the all day Saturday and Sunday drafts. This new format sucks.
This x infinity.

HATE the current format.
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Old 04-26-2012, 11:12 AM   #137
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The defensive line faces systemic disadvantages in the 3-4 that no other position on a defense faces, with the possible exception of corner.

You're outnumbered, out-sized, and responsible for more space than your 4-3 counterparts.
yep, which means you get the same results from all but UBER players.

unless you are getting reggie white you might as well just get blue collar workhouse type guy in the middle rounds.

constantly flushing 1st round picks down the sinkhole 5tech position trying to find a guy that can overcome the inherent disadvantage that the scheme causes is just a waste.

we will get better bang for our bucks filling up other positions until we get lucky in the mid rounds or Reggie White falls into our laps.
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Old 04-26-2012, 11:13 AM   #138
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Old 04-26-2012, 11:14 AM   #139
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It seems the Chiefs are the only ones who believe in investing top 10 picks in a position most other 3-4 teams fill later in the draft.
Us and the bastard franchise that sent our GM to us.
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Old 04-26-2012, 11:16 AM   #140
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This x infinity.

HATE the current format.
All my buddies would get together on Saturday and play poker while the draft was on and make fun of each others teams shitty draft picks and get sloshed. Good times. **** goddel
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Old 04-26-2012, 11:18 AM   #141
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yep, which means you get the same results from all but UBER players.
On what planet?

It means if you don't have really good players there, you get your ass handed to you.
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Old 04-26-2012, 11:22 AM   #142
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On what planet?

It means if you don't have really good players there, you get your ass handed to you.
we disagree ... completely

right now Pioli is going after the 5-tech position like most teams go after quarterbacks. He's dumping money,picks etc into the position like it's gold while he ignores nose tackle and Quarterback.

I hate it

in 10 years we will have four top 10,1st rd 5techs on our roster while still having tyler palko's son at QB.

it's dam stupid
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Old 04-26-2012, 11:27 AM   #143
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I don't see it ever going back.

The ratings for Thursday night are expected to top 50 million viewers.
Yep. It's like the 2nd-most viewed NFL telecast after the Super Bowl or some crazy shit...
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Old 04-26-2012, 11:28 AM   #144
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I don't see it ever going back.

The ratings for Thursday night are expected to top 50 million viewers.
Thursday is the most watched tv night of the week outside of Sunday evening. Its a ratings machine for the NFL.
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Old 04-26-2012, 11:29 AM   #145
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we disagree ... completely

right now Pioli is going after the 5-tech position like most teams go after quarterbacks. He's dumping money,picks etc into the position like it's gold while he ignores nose tackle and Quarterback.

I hate it

in 10 years we will have four top 10,1st rd 5techs on our roster while still having tyler palko's son at QB.

it's dam stupid
Well you're shifting the argument.

I was debating whether 3-4 DEs are very important. So were you, until just now when you shifted to "should we spend our picks there rather than NT or QB."

The Steelers, Jets, Patriots... many 3-4 teams flush 1st round picks at the DE position, because it's incredibly important.
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Old 04-26-2012, 11:38 AM   #146
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Well you're shifting the argument.

I was debating whether 3-4 DEs are very important. So were you, until just now when you shifted to "should we spend our picks there rather than NT or QB."

The Steelers, Jets, Patriots... many 3-4 teams flush 1st round picks at the DE position, because it's incredibly important.
not trying to shift anything

All positions are important but it's also position relative.

Why take a 5tech in the 1st round and maybe improve your defense a fraction when you could take another position where you could improve your TEAM a bunch?

when shooting for the moon i would rather draft 5tech in the 2nd/3rd round and hope we hit instead of flushing first round picks and huge money down the drain hoping we find reggie white.
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Old 04-26-2012, 11:44 AM   #149
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interesting to see where Wright goes

i've seen him projected as high/low as mid 1st to 3rd rd
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Old 04-26-2012, 11:50 AM   #150
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not trying to shift anything

All positions are important but it's also position relative.

Why take a 5tech in the 1st round and maybe improve your defense a fraction when you could take another position where you could improve your TEAM a bunch?

when shooting for the moon i would rather draft 5tech in the 2nd/3rd round and hope we hit instead of flushing first round picks and huge money down the drain hoping we find reggie white.
Well, you're not getting it. I've explained it a few times why the 5T is important, and instead of refuting any of my points, you just reassert your conclusion without backing it up.

The length of this conversation has officially exceeded my interest in it.
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