****Official NFL 2012 Draft Thread****

[SPchief]

We know the 1st two picks. After that? Lets Go!



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[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by Wickedson

Who cares? It doesn't matter. The draft is a crap shoot. That dude Poe will either be good or he won't.

just look at BJ Raji. One year he's good, one year he sucks. You guys spend way too much time worrying about this shit.

no one gives a shit

[Ceej]

Originally Posted by KevB

And Titus won't be happy if we don't take a fullback at some point.

Good point. You can never have enough team captains and guys who fit into the "right 53" mold.

[Blick]

Originally Posted by PGM

I must be missing all these teams that are stocked deep at every position with super stud reserves.

This.

Lots of dumbassery in this thread. Not surprised. Well, kind of, considering some of the sources.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

People are bitching for the sake of bitching. You were going off on a tirade about drafting Poe because... for some weird reason, this had something to do with the Chiefs' inability to get a QB. Don't be ridiculous. And the same people bitching about drafting a boom/bust pick like Poe are the same people bitching that we're playing it safe with other picks like depth o-linemen.

I've been as critical of anybody of Pioli not drafting a QB. I've openly said I thought Romeo and Daboll were moronic hires. I was Pioli's biggest critic for firing Haley and "Gumgate." I think Pioli is a solid GM whose arrogance has kept him from making the most crucial moves that would fix the franchise. I think it's comical that anyone who irrationally slams the Poe pick is an ass-kisser.

I'm pointing out some critical flaws that are extremely, extremely coachable. And I'm saying given his physical talents, it's worth seeing if changing those things change the player. It's no small deal that he plays with his pads low and is horrendous using his hands. You do realize that the Nose Tackle position is almost entirely about leverage and the ability to use your arms/hands to disengage blockers, right? You asked why he sucked and that's a very possible, strong explanation for it.

The problem is a disconnect.

You can not begin to grasp the argument about QB he presented as it relates to Poe.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

uh oh Gruden just called the Chiefs his sleeper team this year.

He called Cassel "a winner"

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Satanic Goat

He called Cassel "a winner"

That guy needs to stay in broadcasting.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Maybe LB?

We have nothing behind our 4 starters. Nothing.

Safety is a given.

CB isn't nearly the strength it used to be.

We have two glass vaginas at TE.

We're super-thin at RB, not knowing how JC will bounce back.

Face it, we really don't have depth at any position beside WR - and even that is thin if we're seriously thinking of letting Bowe walk.

The problems you're describing fit like 90% of the teams in this league.

[Bewbies]

We need all the stuff we drafted, but damn it's boring as shit to watch.

Can we just trade our last picks for a #1 next year?

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

People are bitching for the sake of bitching. You were going off on a tirade about drafting Poe because... for some weird reason, this had something to do with the Chiefs' inability to get a QB. Don't be ridiculous. And the same people bitching about drafting a boom/bust pick like Poe are the same people bitching that we're playing it safe with other picks like depth o-linemen.

I've been as critical of anybody of Pioli not drafting a QB. I've openly said I thought Romeo and Daboll were moronic hires. I was Pioli's biggest critic for firing Haley and "Gumgate." I think Pioli is a solid GM whose arrogance has kept him from making the most crucial moves that would fix the franchise. I think it's comical that anyone who irrationally slams the Poe pick is an ass-kisser.

I'm pointing out some critical flaws that are extremely, extremely coachable. And I'm saying given his physical talents, it's worth seeing if changing those things change the player. It's no small deal that he plays with his pads low and is horrendous using his hands. You do realize that the Nose Tackle position is almost entirely about leverage and the ability to use your arms/hands to disengage blockers, right? You asked why he sucked and that's a very possible, strong explanation for it.

pointing out that poe did nothing in college and is a workout warrior is simply pointing out a fact

but you can't deal with that fact...hence you whine and cry about various strawmen

and if you can't understand my simple explanation about the hypocrisy of 'it's too risky!!' fanbois claiming to love a risky pick like poe at #11, then you're just dense..

drafting a QB is risky, can't do it ever
drafting a player who did literally nothing in college at #11 is not risky...it's bold and smart

this what you sunshine pumpers believe

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by milkman

The problem is a disconnect.

You can not begin to grasp the argument about QB he presented as it relates to Poe.

I can't grasp it because it's an absolutely reeruned argument.

The Chiefs haven't taken a risk on a QB. Agreed. They also haven't taken a risk on a Nose Tackle. Guess what? They did. And now we're bitching about it. And it's not because we passed up taking a risk on a QB. There was no QB we should have taken given what it would have taken to get one.

Talking can is pissed about the Poe pick and he's trying to bait people into where he is because he's pissed about the QB decision and he knows that bitching about Cassel is a convenient way to throw the bait. And then he's acting like people who support the pick are somehow also supportive of the QB decision. They're two completely separate arguments. I'm okay with the Nose Tackle pick and pissed at the way they've handled the QB situation the last 4 years.

[Dylan]

I don't like to get involved in your business - But, I remember the Chiefs were rotating the line and linebackers -- you have excellent linebackers - so you have depth. The nose tackle was addressed in the draft -

I really like your defense.

j/m/o

[chop]

Originally Posted by ILChief

I forgot about Sheffield

I still haven't seen Gabe Miller play yet. I'm not sure how he is going to do with the switch to LB.

[DTLB58]

RT @McClain_on_NFL: Confirmed the Texans are talking to teams about trading WR Jacoby Jones if they believe they can get a good deal.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I can't grasp it because it's an absolutely reeruned argument.

The Chiefs haven't taken a risk on a QB. Agreed. They also haven't taken a risk on a Nose Tackle. Guess what? They did. And now we're bitching about it. And it's not because we passed up taking a risk on a QB. There was no QB we should have taken given what it would have taken to get one.

Talking can is pissed about the Poe pick and he's trying to bait people into where he is because he's pissed about the QB decision and he knows that bitching about Cassel is a convenient way to throw the bait. And then he's acting like people who support the pick are somehow also supportive of the QB decision. They're two completely separate arguments. I'm okay with the Nose Tackle pick and pissed at the way they've handled the QB situation the last 4 years.

We are of the same mind.

Rep.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by chop

I still haven't seen Gabe Miller play yet. I'm not sure how he is going to do with the switch to LB.

He was showing some flashes in the preseason before his "injury".