****Official NFL 2012 Draft Thread****

[SPchief]

We know the 1st two picks. After that? Lets Go!



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[Fairplay]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Something tells me I'm not going to be awake at 9 when it kicks off again.

Whoever the Chiefs pick we will all be in frantic google mode to learn who the heck is this guy we just drafted is now, heh. I will say pick 2 and 3 had most of us scratching our heads for a moment.

I'm good with our picks though after the dust settled. We knew we needed help on both sides of the line. Especially a run stuffer in the middle on defense.
Offensive linemen take longer to develop in the NFL. We should have addressed this much needed personnel in earlier drafts. As Lenny would say the war begins in the trenches. I want our offensive line to physically push their line back noticeably on running plays, wear them down.

Back in the Vermeil days we kicked butt on o-line. Roaf, Waters, Shields and Wiegmann i loved it. Plus they made massive holes for Priest to run through like a hot knife through butter.
Our defense sucked though but that's another story. lol

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Alright, it's past midnight, and I'm a bit drunk. So I may just be slipping into homer mode.

But at best, we might have landed a full time nose, a full time left guard, and a new left tackle. In three ****ing picks, that's outstanding.

The worst case scenario while remaining reasonable: we get a huge, athletic defensive end to replace Dorsey, a full time left guard, and an effective swing tackle.

That could be an effective draft.

I could be happy with it.

Hard to say, though.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

You and Boss have been touting that he can be special but that's not everybody's sentiment. Most people are endorsing Tannehill because we need to take a chance on a first round QB and because he's not Cassel. No mention of whether he can be special. It's not risk averse if there are some, like myself, who want to be aggressive about getting a QB... only if it's the right QB. To me, it's risk averse that so many people want to take a QB simply because he's there, not because they're excited about him.

And that's why I'm okay with the Poe pick. That's a risky pick if there ever was one. I think most people agree that this is a pure boom/bust pick. He's probably going to either play extremely well or he's going to crash really badly. The Tannehill pick... yes, my personal opinion that Tannehill in relation to NFL QBs has an average skill set --his floor isn't bad, but his ceiling isn't impressive. Just a personal opinion. I'm not risk averse. I'm picky.

Either way, talking can's insistence that Poe was a needs based pick and not one made on a risky dare... just silly. Claiming those who support the Poe pick because it was risky are Pioli shills, then saying those who don't support risky moves for QBs are Pioli shills... contradictory.

poe was absolutely a need pick....jesus christ, they don't draft him otherwise

but that fact doesn't even matter

we can take risks....for a NT...and people celebrate and rationalize it

but we can't takes risks....for a QB that is 10000000000000x more important than NT

and pioli is a genious for both, amazingly

i don't ever want to hear the word 'risky' coming from this board's sad ass true fans as a pejorative after we just drafted a guy who produced nothing in college...nothing

don't want to hear that QB X is 'risky' because he only played 2 years, or is only awesome and not super awesome, or is 'raw'...lol....Poe is less developed, less accomplished, less coached, more raw than anyone we've ever hoped to draft at QB...by a god damn mile

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

poe was absolutely a need pick....jesus christ, they don't draft him otherwise

but that fact doesn't even matter

we can take risks....for a NT...and people celebrate and rationalize it

but we can't takes risks....for a QB that is 10000000000000x more important than NT

and pioli is a genious for both, amazingly

i don't ever want to hear the word 'risky' coming from this board's sad ass true fans as a pejorative after we just drafted a guy who produced nothing in college...nothing

don't want to hear that QB X is 'risky' because he only played 2 years, or is only awesome and not super awesome, or is 'raw'...lol....Poe is less developed, less accomplished, less coached, more raw than anyone we've ever hoped to draft at QB...by a god damn mile

To quote myself yesterday, me being one of the more vocal people against moving up for Tannehill:

Originally Posted by keg in kc

This won't be a popular comment, but I see Tannehill as the QB equivalent of Poe. I think I'd have felt exactly the same way had he been picked at 11. Wouldn't have been excited, wouldn't have been disappointed, it would have amounted to taking a big gamble on a major position of need, that's either going to boom gloriously or bust biblically, and I got no idea which way it's going to go.

[scho63]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Alright, it's past midnight, and I'm a bit drunk. So I may just be slipping into homer mode.

But at best, we might have landed a full time nose, a full time left guard, and a new left tackle. In three ****ing picks, that's outstanding.

The worst case scenario while remaining reasonable: we get a huge, athletic defensive end to replace Dorsey, a full time left guard, and an effective swing tackle.

That could be an effective draft.

I could be happy with it.

Hard to say, though.

Good summation-I'm happy with it unless Poe turns into a slug

[RUSH]

I don't mind the first two picks.

I can't get on board with the Stephenson pick though. I know Allen was drafted as a guard but for his rookie year, I think he very well could have backed up all the lineman positions outside of center. That's quality depth.

I wish they held off and drafted in the secondary or a running back because depth and players that will need to play this year are crucial.

And once lilja is gone next year you can then draft or sign your swing tackle in free agency.

But they must have really liked the player.

[DaKCMan AP]

Good morning people of Chiefs Planet. 3.5 hours until the draft continues.

Morning run
Banana pancakes
NFL Draft
Heat-Knicks NBA playoffs
Bars

LETS DO THIS!

[Stanley Nickels]

Wake up
Jerk off
NFL Draft
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NFLDraft
Dinner
Beer
Jerk off

LET'S DO THIS! (Ladiessss)

[RUSH]

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Good morning people of Chiefs Planet. 3.5 hours until the draft continues.

Morning run
Banana pancakes
NFL Draft
Heat-Knicks NBA playoffs
Bars

LETS DO THIS!

Go knicks.

Been a while since we matched up. Hoping that bad blood returns. That was great basketball back in the late 90s.

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by RUSH

Go knicks.

Been a while since we matched up. Hoping that bad blood returns. That was great basketball back in the late 90s.

Hell yes it was. Still remember the pain from Allan Houston's last second jumper that seemed to hit every part of the rim plus the backboard before going in.

I loved those Hardaway-Lenard-Mash-PJ-Zo-Majerle-Askins teams and I absolutely hated those Ewing-Houston-Starks-Ward-LJ-Spree-Oakley Knicks teams.

[DaKCMan AP]

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[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

poe was absolutely a need pick....jesus christ, they don't draft him otherwise

but that fact doesn't even matter

we can take risks....for a NT...and people celebrate and rationalize it

but we can't takes risks....for a QB that is 10000000000000x more important than NT

and pioli is a genious for both, amazingly

i don't ever want to hear the word 'risky' coming from this board's sad ass true fans as a pejorative after we just drafted a guy who produced nothing in college...nothing

don't want to hear that QB X is 'risky' because he only played 2 years, or is only awesome and not super awesome, or is 'raw'...lol....Poe is less developed, less accomplished, less coached, more raw than anyone we've ever hoped to draft at QB...by a god damn mile

Who even knows what the **** a true fan is anymore. You guys are so liberal in how you use the word. Since when did a true fan become a fan that's willing to take a risk on an impact player?

Your story just spirals out of control. You've made it perfectly clear that you despise the Poe pick because he produced nothing in college (the most vocal on the board about it), and now you're ripping on people who don't like a QB pick because he produced nothing in college. You have implied that Pioli was just laying up and filling a nose tackle spot because it needed to be filled.... never mind that the layup was to draft a Guard like Decastro. Nevermind that aggressively going after Tannehill is ALSO a needs based pick and a much safer pick than Poe, because at least he has some college track record.

You hate the Poe pick. And you hate it because it's risky. And now you're somehow trying to convince people that the reason we should hate this pick too is because we are all risk averse because we won't take a quarterback. Your argument is ridiculous. If you're going to rip on people, rip on the people who are pissed we didn't take Decastro. Don't rip on the people who are happy that Pioli finally stepped out of his safe zone and took a risk for a change.

[Frosty]

Okay

Took off my grey colored glasses that I put on for the first two rounds and put on my Chiefs red rose colored glasses. Put on my lucky Ted Popson jersey. I'm ready to go.

We are going to have a great finish to the draft today.

[prhom]

Herm just said Josh Norman reminds him of Brandon Carr, any of you guys heard of him? Herm may be a terrible HC, but the man knows DB prospects. Maybe he's a good guy to pick up later on.