CP grades the Chiefs' draft

[mlyonsd]

Poll forthcoming.

[Chiefnj2]

It might be the most underwhelming and unexciting draft in KC history. The first rounder with the lowest floor and a bunch of questionable depth.

[Iowanian]

Compared to the needs of the team, I think it was a fine draft. They didn't take everyone I wanted, but most of the picks made sense to me.

Poe is huge, has physical tools and they obviously see something in him, I'm hoping he's a Ngata or Wilfork type player. A starting left guard, a swing tackle and potential LT, corner depth, nice complimentary running back, wide receiver help.

All things the Chiefs needed.

The only true gaping hole I see on this team right now is safety depth.(obviously QB isn't a strength, but you can't fix it all in 1 year).

[Chiefnj2]

They drafted 1 player in Mayock's top 100.

[shammus]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

They drafted 1 player in Mayock's top 100.

Looks like we have 4 in Mayocks top 100. Poe at 13, Allen at 36, Menzie at 80 and Stephenson at 96
http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000...spect-rankings

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by shammus

Looks like we have 4 in Mayocks top 100. Poe at 13, Allen at 36, Menzie at 80 and Stephenson at 96
http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000...spect-rankings

That's what I get for reading the list in under 10 seconds. My bad. I especially didn't realize Allen was rated so high.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by hometeam

Im on the 'we could have gotten all our picks 1 round later' train

Dumb

[Okie_Apparition]

We won't know until New Year's Day
if the Christmas presents will hold up
and hold our interest more than the box they came in

[Beef Supreme]

Poe makes or breaks this draft. I hope all the people doubting him pisses him off enough to make him a beast.

Allen is Lilja's replacement, it's just a matter of when. But he'll get play time this year no matter what.

Stephenson is good depth with good feet and good measureables. I think he'll make the roster.

The rest can plan on trying to find a roster spot on special teams. Could be a diamond in there somewhere.

[milkman]

I think Jeff Allen will be the starter at LG, sooner than later.

I have my doubts about Stephnson, but he has potential.

I really like the potential of Menzie at safety and Gray at RB.

But this draft rides on Poe.

I am skeptical, at best, but time will tell.

[shammus]

I give it a C+. I didn't mind the positions we drafted at all. Those were all necessary. I didn't even really mind that we seemingly went with a large group of "projects" in this draft. What I didn't like was that it seemed like every time we drafted someone, there were at least two guys rated higher at that same position still available. So in other words, a few of our guys were reaches. I also would have liked to have seen us trade down in the first round. I think we could have taken that offer from the Eagles, still snagged Poe and picked up some extra picks in the process.

Poe - I'm willing to at least partially buy into his low statistics stemming from him being on a bad team, with bad coaching. Plus, all he's really supposed to do is take up space and occupy blockers so it's not like he's supposed to be racking up a bunch of tackles for loss and sacks anyway. He's got a lot of strength, speed, upside and supposedly a solid motor/work ethic. B-

Allen - Would have really loved for us to have taken Konz here who slipped a lot further than people thought he'd go. Could have moved Hudson to guard. Osemele was available too. Would have preferred either to Allen, but I do like Allen's versatility. - C

Stephenson - At this point in the draft I was almost convinced that our "theme" for this year was "project players". We are woefully thin at tackle but it seems that Zebrie Sanders or Bobby Massie would have been a better selection at this spot? I do like his potential to be a decent LT in the future though. - C

Wylie - again, there were several players at this position I would have rather had - Marvin Jones, McNutt, etc... Seems to be a big injury risk as well. Not sure what the thinking was on this one but I THINK I read that he was the 2nd fastest WR in the draft??? I like the pick a bit better if that is the case as we don't have a true stretch the field, deep threat. 5'9 is still a bit small though... - C-

Menzie - really wanted Iloka here but the Menzie selection is where I started liking our picks a little more. Anything that keeps McGraw and Sabby off the field though is fine by me - B

Gray - Really liked this pick. Best RB left on the board too and has a good skillset - running, blocking, catching out of the backfield, etc... Seems like a well rounded back that was expected to go in RD 3-4. You might say this is our first value pick as well - A

Long - I think David Molk could have been our starter at C if we had taken him here and he'd be perfect for our zone blocking scheme. I don't know much about Long other than he had some impressive stats playing at a small school. After a few "meh" picks in the draft, I guess Pioli was due for a true wtf pick. Cam Johnson slid a looong way in this draft. Would have loved to have seen him or Molk taken with our #218 pick... C-

Hemingway - After Gray, this is probably my favorite pick. Seems to have a pretty well-rounded skillset and has a shot at being our WR4 - A

[O.city]

We got some really good pieces, IMO, later in the draft. Possibly a starting LG, a good swing tackle prospect, running back depth, wr depth, dline depth.


But as has been said, this is all on Poe. If he plays like a bad ass up front, this is a top 5 defense with athleticism everywhere behind. If he plays like a JAG, it's a shitty draft.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by shammus

I give it a C+. I didn't mind the positions we drafted at all. Those were all necessary. I didn't even really mind that we seemingly went with a large group of "projects" in this draft. What I didn't like was that it seemed like every time we drafted someone, there were at least two guys rated higher at that same position still available. So in other words, a few of our guys were reaches. I also would have liked to have seen us trade down in the first round. I think we still could have snagged Poe and we could have picked up some extra picks.

Poe - I'm willing to at least partially buy into his low statistics stemming from him being on a bad team, with bad coaching. Plus, all he's really supposed to do is take up space and occupy blockers so it's not like he's supposed to be racking up a bunch of tackles for loss and sacks anyway. He's got a lot of strength, speed, upside and supposedly a solid motor/work ethic. B-

Allen - Would have really loved for us to have taken Konz here who slipped a lot further than people thought he'd go. Could have moved Hudson to guard. Osemele was available too. Would have preferred either to Allen, but I do like Allen's versatility. - C

Stephenson - At this point in the draft I was almost convinced that our "theme" for this year was "project players". We are woefully thin at tackle but it seems that Zebrie Sanders or Bobby Massie would have been a better selection at this spot? I do like his potential to be a decent LT in the future though. - C

Wylie - again, there were several players at this position I would have rather had - Marvin Jones, McNutt, etc... Seems to be a big injury risk as well. Not sure what the thinking was on this one but I THINK I read that he was the 2nd fastest WR in the draft??? I like the pick a bit better if that is the case as we don't have a true stretch the field, deep threat. 5'9 is still a bit small though... - C-

Menzie - really wanted Iloka here but the Menzie selection is where I started liking our picks a little more. Anything that keeps McGraw and Sabby off the field though is fine by me - B

Gray - Really liked this pick. Best RB left on the board too and has a good skillset - running, blocking, catching out of the backfield, etc... Seems like a well rounded back that was expected to go in RD 3-4. You might say this is our first value pick as well - A

Long - I think David Molk could have been our starter at C if we had taken him here and he'd be perfect for our zone blocking scheme. I don't know much about Long other than he had some impressive stats playing at a small school. After a few "meh" picks in the draft, I guess Pioli was due for a true wtf pick. Cam Johnson slid a looong way in this draft. Would have loved to have seen him or Molk taken with our #218 pick... C-

Hemingway - After Gray, this is probably my favorite pick. Seems to have a pretty well-rounded skillset and has a shot at being our WR4 - A

The thing you have to look at is, yeah, some of those guys were rated higher when we picked. But they also fell a long way. So it wasn't just the Chiefs that were passing on them.

Those ratings were mostly by guys that work for the networks, IIRC.

[BoneKrusher]

C+
i understand we needed depth but we also need a QB.

[FloridaMan88]

D-, a terrible draft by Fat Scott.

The Chiefs talked about "bringing in competition" for Cassel this offseason... unless Brady Quinn magically transforms into an NFL caliber QB (something he hasn't shown an ability to do in his 5 year NFL career thus far), the Chiefs have failed to upgrade the competition at QB.

The Chiefs reached badly to fill a need with Poe, who appears to be another Junior Siavii.

[chiefzilla1501]

Pretty unsexy draft. But there's some things to like. I think it's a B today, but it could become a C or an A depending on Poe.

Poe was a nice draft pick because it showed Pioli is ready to take a risk on an impact player rather than layup on the safe guy. Let's hope that happens at QB soon enough. Again, I think the Chiefs see several areas of improvement for the guy: 1) no reason to play him 50+ snaps. That's just insane. 2) let him focus on playing one position well instead of moving him around. 3) Hook him up with the martial arts guy. His hand technique is horrendous and it's getting him completely locked up. 4) Hook him up with Romeo, one of the best D-line coaches in the game. Teach him to get his pads down. He gets his pads too high and he gets stood up. The position is all about leverage and he loses that game as soon as the ball is snapped.

Allen--nice pick, even if he's just quality depth. I mentioned before that our o-line is rounding out, but our depth was absolutely horrendous. I think Stephenson is a much better pick than a guy like Mike Adams, who went earlier. Stephenson actually has fast enough feet to play the position -- at worst, he's okay depth. The rest of the draft is a crapshoot, but we may have gotten 1 or 2 starters out of it and quality depth at some key positions. I did think the focus on WRs was a little weird.

At this stage of the Chiefs, it's good that they got deeper, which is what they needed. Let's just hope that somehow magically our QB situation will be fixed sometime in the next 20 years.