Chiefs WTF Mike Silver says we are the 28th best team in the NFL

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-30-2012, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

Haters gotta hate.

You cant be so blind in your hate to say this team would not compete for SB with a good QB.

Again, here's what people refuse to acknowledge when it comes to my opinions.

I'm not saying this team is devoid of talent.

I'm simply saying that we don't know exactly what we have.

The overwhelming majority of this board has already declared our young players and FA acquisitions as successes.

We haven't seen enough of these players to make that claim.

Add to that, two of our best players are coming back from an injury that typically sees a decline in performance - and thge QB situation, and I see a team with a metric ****ton of question marks.

I think DJ hit the nail on the head.

If everything goes perfect, this might be a 11-5 team.

But this team could just as easily win 4-6 games - and not necessarily because of injury - but because these kids with little-to-no experience don't end up being anywhere near as good as this fanbase (and organization) think they are.

Direckshun · 04-30-2012, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Again, here's what people refuse to acknowledge when it comes to my opinions.

I'm not saying this team is devoid of talent.

I'm simply saying that we don't know exactly what we have.

The overwhelming majority of this board has already declared our young players and FA acquisitions as successes.

We haven't seen enough of these players to make that claim.

Add to that, two of our best players are coming back from an injury that typically sees a decline in performance - and thge QB situation, and I see a team with a metric ****ton of question marks.

I think DJ hit the nail on the head.

If everything goes perfect, this might be a 11-5 team.

But this team could just as easily win 4-6 games - and not necessarily because of injury - but because these kids with little-to-no experience don't end up being anywhere near as good as this fanbase (and organization) think they are.

The point that I'm taking issue with is that you see the 4-6 option as the most likely.

All due respect, I call bullshit.

I don't doubt the question marks, but I'm very comfortable with things ending up more positive than negative with the vast majority of them.

My biggest pessimist POV is on Charles' recovery. On most of the other risks, I'm cautiously optimistic.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-30-2012, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

The point that I'm taking issue with is that you see the 4-6 option as the most likely.

All due respect, I call bullshit.

I don't doubt the question marks, but I'm very comfortable with things ending up more positive than negative with the vast majority of them.

My biggest pessimist POV is on Charles' recovery. On most of the other risks, I'm cautiously optimistic.

Where did I say that?

My best guess as of right now is 8 wins.

Direckshun · 04-30-2012, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Where did I say that?

My best guess as of right now is 8 wins.

And yet, 27th in the league.

I guess that means 26 teams have a .500+ record this year.

Edit: Correction, you said 26th.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-30-2012, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

And yet, 27th in the league.

I guess that means 26 teams have a .500+ record this year.

Edit: Correction, you said 26th.

Funny, the Broncos went 8-8 last year and won a playoff game, something we haven't done in nearly 20 years - yet you'd put us ahead of them.

You're arguing that we're better than our 7-9 record.

So what does record have to do with it?

Direckshun · 04-30-2012, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Funny, the Broncos went 8-8 last year and won a playoff game, something we haven't done in nearly 20 years - yet you'd put us ahead of them.

You're arguing that we're better than our 7-9 record.

So what does record have to do with it?

I would not put us ahead of the Broncos. They have a HOF QB right now.

I would have put them ahead with Tebow this time last year, along with the vast majority of NFL speculators. That run they had was magical, not something you can rely on occurring regularly.

You've just hedged your bets in a clever way as to allow you to speculate freely without having to worry about getting burnt.

A crappy team, but manages 8 wins against a legitimately tough schedule. That means the only way you're wrong is if Cassel pulls magic out of his ass and plays like a Pro Bowler, guiding this team to a 10+ win season and a playoff run.

I think this team is better now than its 7-9 record indicated last year.

You think the team is worse, I suppose? Yet will improve on its record, with our best players on both side of the ball returning.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-30-2012, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

I would not put us ahead of the Broncos. They have a HOF QB right now.

I would have put them ahead with Tebow this time last year, along with the vast majority of NFL speculators. That run they had was magical, not something you can rely on occurring regularly.

You've just hedged your bets in a clever way as to allow you to speculate freely without having to worry about getting burnt.

A crappy team, but manages 8 wins against a legitimately tough schedule. That means the only way you're wrong is if Cassel pulls magic out of his ass and plays like a Pro Bowler, guiding this team to a 10+ win season and a playoff run.

I think this team is better now than its 7-9 record indicated last year.

You think the team is worse, I suppose? Yet will improve on its record, with our best players on both side of the ball returning.

And there you go again - assuming the worst, though the evidence points to the contrary.

If Charles and Berry return and play at 100% of their previous ability, this team should theoreticallywin more games.

But there's little evidence to suggest that will happen. Most athletes coming back from ACL surgery don't get back to form until the second year post-surgery, if at all.