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Old 04-30-2012, 11:23 AM  
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WTF Mike Silver says we are the 28th best team in the NFL

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1. New York Giants: Is general manager Jerry Reese trying to get disgruntled defensive end Osi Umenyiora to snap?

2. New England Patriots: If Bill Belichick pulled off a trade in which he managed to swap picks with himself, would his reputation for masterful maneuvering reach an unprecedented plateau?

[ Dan Wetzel: Pats move up twice during first round in a dramatic shift in strategy ]

3. Green Bay Packers: Yo, Ted Thompson, feeling a bit defensive – and does having a 28-year-old superstar quarterback impact your thinking much?

4. Baltimore Ravens: When second-round draft pick Courtney Upshaw lines up across from new teammate Michael Oher in training camp, will their biological and surrogate parents be there to cheer them on?

5. San Francisco 49ers: How happy is Jim Harbaugh that the Niners drafted a receiver whose high school nickname was "E.T." and not "Edward Scissorhands"?

6. Houston Texans: With the drafting of Wade Phillips' newest pass-rushing toy, will the Texans' defense be Mercilus in 2012?

7. Pittsburgh Steelers: Got beef?

[ Les Carpenter: Draft picks spend more time in Radio City than anticipated ]

8. Detroit Lions: If the decision-makers in the Lions' war room "listened to our board" and started speaking in Matt Millen's voice, would the team's medical staff pass out handfuls of clozapine?

9. Atlanta Falcons: Hey, Thomas Dimitroff – if second-round pick Peter Konz could play guard and center at the same time, would you have made another Julio Jones-style trade to get him sixth overall?

10. Philadelphia Eagles: After assuring offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg that Philly's plan to use a third-round pick on former Arizona quarterback Nick Foles was "a great one", was Michael Vick tempted to add, "By the way – who's Nick Foles?"

11. New Orleans Saints: When Saints general manager Mickey Loomis called in his third-round pick of Regina defensive tackle Akiem Hicks Friday night, was NFL commissioner Roger Goodell tempted to grab the phone and interject, "Yeah, we know – we've got your war room wiretapped …"

[ Fantasy: A dozen draftees bound to make an immediate fantasy impact ]

12. Denver Broncos: Will Brock Osweiler become the tallest-ever teammate to bend down and polish Peyton Manning's dress shoes before a Quarterbacks' Night Out at training camp?

13. Dallas Cowboys: What was the Wonderlic score of the Dallas Morning News website editor who posted this headline about first-round draft pick "Morrris" Claiborne?

14. New York Jets: Am I the only one who wonders whether, based on their 2011 performance, the Jets should have drafted an offensive lineman before the sixth round?

15. Cincinnati Bengals: After Rutgers receiver Mohamed Sanu got a prank call telling him the Bengals were taking him in the first round Thursday night, shouldn't Redskins tight end Chris Cooley have been considered the prime suspect?

Notre Dame WR Michael Floyd is headed to Arizona. (AP)

16. Arizona Cardinals: If I'd been at Larry Fitzgerald's house for the first round of this year's draft, would he have reacted to the selection of Notre Dame receiver Michael Floyd by racing jubilantly through his open-air living room and jumping into the pool?

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17. San Diego Chargers: After learning that Chargers GM A.J. Smith had called him a "mean, nasty man", shouldn't first-round pick Melvin Ingram have extended his hand and retorted, "Pot, meet kettle"?

18. Carolina Panthers: How crazy is it that this year's No. 1 pick, Boston College middle linebacker Luke Kuechly, is smaller than last year's No. 1, quarterback Cam Newton?

19. Buffalo Bills: When general manager Buddy Nix described the Bills as "riverboat gamblers" after trading up to get North Carolina State wideout T.J. Graham in the third round, why did I immediately picture this body of water?

20. Chicago Bears: Will the new receiving tandem of Brandon Marshall and second-round pick Alshon Jeffery cause more havoc in opposing secondaries, or in the Bears' locker room?

21. Washington Redskins: When the 'Skins released quarterback John Beck on Saturday, was he humming my altered-lyric version of this iconic '90s tune from his alt-rock namesake?

22. St. Louis Rams: In an effort to help veteran Cortland Finnegan mentor newly drafted cornerbacks Janoris Jenkins and Trumaine Johnson, will coach Jeff Fisher provide the former Titans standout with a Taser gun?

[ Rams' war room: Roll dice on Janoris Jenkin | Select next T.O. ]

23. Tennessee Titans: After NFL Network analyst Mike Mayock described second-round pick Zach Brown as "allergic to contact", how awesome would it have been to see Brown fly across the set at Radio City Music Hall, slam Mayock into the orchestra pit and yell "Gesundheit"?

24. Seattle Seahawks: What's more surprising – that Pete Carroll and Jon Schneider drafted a quarterback in the third round, or that Wisconsin's Russell Wilson is the team's highest-drafted passer in nearly two decades?

25. Oakland Raiders: How disconcerting is it that post-Al Davis Raiders are resolutely boring on draft day, and can't new GM Reggie McKenzie just indulge us with one ultra-swift, lowly regarded "reach" pick per year?

26. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: If the Muscle Hamster runs wild at Raymond James Stadium, will they put a large, spinning wheel next to the pirate ship in Doug Martin's honor?

27. Cleveland Browns: As of Thursday night, is Colt McCoy nostalgic for a little one-on-one time with Brian Daboll?

28. Kansas City Chiefs: Do Scott Pioli and Romeo Crennel seem overly optimistic in their assessment of the Chiefs' talent level – or am I just so pessimistic about K.C.'s quarterback situation that it completely clouds my thinking?

29. Jacksonville Jaguars: To realize value as the 70th overall pick, would Bryan Anger have to figure out a way to get footballs to explode upon making contact with a punt returner?

30. Minnesota Vikings: Yo, Matt Kalil – while proclaiming how much more Minnesota than California you are, were you neglecting to account for the possibility that the team which drafted you might soon be West Coast-bound?

31. Miami Dolphins: Does Jeff Irleand's latest rebuilding project involve replacing his best player – and, if so, why do I sense another protest brewing?

[ Jason Cole: Colts use Day 2 of draft to get Andrew Luck weapons in form of 2 TEs and a WR ]

32. Indianapolis Colts: Now that former Stanford tight end Coby Fleener has successfully convinced an NFL team he was worthy of being selected with the 34th overall pick, will he grow his hair out and lose the whole Rob Gronkowski impersonation bit?
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Old 04-30-2012, 12:19 PM   #76
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Old 04-30-2012, 12:19 PM   #77
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he's among the group that has bitched about Pioli from Day 1.

Pioli is a dictator ...
Pioli forced Haley to .... *insert player/coach/play call here*
Pioli is mean to janitors ...

You aren't going to get ANY benefit of the doubt or anything else from him.

Just scream Pioli and Cassel suck if you want him to cheer.
Why should anyone give them the benefit of the doubt, other than to be a flaming homer?

They so-called "Executive of the Decade" has compiled a roster worthy of 21 wins in 3 seasons.

Until they prove otherwise, they are what they are.
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Old 04-30-2012, 12:19 PM   #78
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Remove QB from the equation and I'm 100% comfortable saying they're not a bottom 10 team. I'd still argue they're not a top 10 team, but at least not a bottom 10.

With Matt Cassel under center, there's no way in hell I'm comfortable categorically stating that this in not a bottom 10 team.
This is a necessary repost.

On top of Cassel, we still have Brian Daboll as offensive coordinator, who has historically been crap as a coordinator. Then there is Romeo, who has exactly *one* playoff season as a head coach.

Regardless of how you feel our draft went and how it sets us up for this season and seasons to come, we still have to overcome Cassel and Daboll's shortcomings, which is going to take more than good intentions and a smile.
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Old 04-30-2012, 12:20 PM   #79
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Old 04-30-2012, 12:20 PM   #80
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Funny, the Broncos went 8-8 last year and won a playoff game, something we haven't done in nearly 20 years - yet you'd put us ahead of them.

You're arguing that we're better than our 7-9 record.

So what does record have to do with it?
I would not put us ahead of the Broncos. They have a HOF QB right now.

I would have put them ahead with Tebow this time last year, along with the vast majority of NFL speculators. That run they had was magical, not something you can rely on occurring regularly.

You've just hedged your bets in a clever way as to allow you to speculate freely without having to worry about getting burnt.

A crappy team, but manages 8 wins against a legitimately tough schedule. That means the only way you're wrong is if Cassel pulls magic out of his ass and plays like a Pro Bowler, guiding this team to a 10+ win season and a playoff run.

I think this team is better now than its 7-9 record indicated last year.

You think the team is worse, I suppose? Yet will improve on its record, with our best players on both side of the ball returning.
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Old 04-30-2012, 12:21 PM   #81
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This is a necessary repost.

On top of Cassel, we still have Brian Daboll as offensive coordinator, who has historically been crap as a coordinator. Then there is Romeo, who has exactly *one* playoff season as a head coach.

Regardless of how you feel our draft went and how it sets us up for this season and seasons to come, we still have to overcome Cassel and Daboll's shortcomings, which is going to take more than good intentions and a smile.
Pure hate.
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Old 04-30-2012, 12:22 PM   #82
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Why should anyone give them the benefit of the doubt, other than to be a flaming homer?

They so-called "Executive of the Decade" has compiled a roster worthy of 21 wins in 3 seasons.

Until they prove otherwise, they are what they are.
You can qualify that by saying the Chiefs have had two shots at a true franchise QB in four offseasons -- reaching for Dalton or ripping Manning from Elway's clutches -- and has had to essentially completely rebuild a shit roster that just went 2-14.
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Old 04-30-2012, 12:23 PM   #83
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he's among the group that has bitched about Pioli from Day 1.

Pioli is a dictator ...
Pioli forced Haley to .... *insert player/coach/play call here*
Pioli is mean to janitors ...

You aren't going to get ANY benefit of the doubt or anything else from him.

Just scream Pioli and Cassel suck if you want him to cheer.
Why should Pioli get the benefit of the doubt?

He inherited Hali, Johnson, Flowers, Charles, Carr, Albert and Bowe yet with that much talent at incredibly key positions he's managed to turn in 2 awful seasons with 1 mediocre season sandwiched in the middle.

Do SOMETHING and he'll get the benefit of the doubt from me.

All I see is someone that is still coasting off his NE pedigree. But the problem is that he's gone from NE and yet NE is doing the same thing, year in, year out, that they did when he was there. Kinda suggests that maybe he wasn't the reason for those successes now doesn't it?

When he can reverse the ratios from having 1 2011 draft for 3 2009, 10 and 12 drafts to have 3 2011 drafts to every 1 of those abortions, I'll consider giving him the benefit of the doubt.

But hey - at least he's taking his undersized injury cases and kick returners in the 4th and 5th rounds now instead of the 2nd. So he's learning.
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Old 04-30-2012, 12:24 PM   #84
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Pure hate.
Again, all due respect, but get off the cross.

I won't speak for asshat Laz, but I haven't slung "hate" around in this thread at all.

You want to swim against the stream on this team on CP?

Be ready to handle it.
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Old 04-30-2012, 12:24 PM   #85
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I would not put us ahead of the Broncos. They have a HOF QB right now.

I would have put them ahead with Tebow this time last year, along with the vast majority of NFL speculators. That run they had was magical, not something you can rely on occurring regularly.

You've just hedged your bets in a clever way as to allow you to speculate freely without having to worry about getting burnt.

A crappy team, but manages 8 wins against a legitimately tough schedule. That means the only way you're wrong is if Cassel pulls magic out of his ass and plays like a Pro Bowler, guiding this team to a 10+ win season and a playoff run.

I think this team is better now than its 7-9 record indicated last year.

You think the team is worse, I suppose? Yet will improve on its record, with our best players on both side of the ball returning.
And there you go again - assuming the worst, though the evidence points to the contrary.

If Charles and Berry return and play at 100% of their previous ability, this team should theoreticallywin more games.

But there's little evidence to suggest that will happen. Most athletes coming back from ACL surgery don't get back to form until the second year post-surgery, if at all.
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Pure hate.
You forgot "unmitigated" and/or "unsubstantiated".
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You can qualify that by saying the Chiefs have had two shots at a true franchise QB in four offseasons -- reaching for Dalton or ripping Manning from Elway's clutches -- and has had to essentially completely rebuild a shit roster that just went 2-14.
It was nowhere near a shit roster.

Very few GMs in the last decade have inherited as much high-end talent as Pioli did when he came into this organization.

And he's done jack shit with it.
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Again, all due respect, but get off the cross.

I won't speak for asshat Laz, but I haven't slung "hate" around in this thread at all.

You want to swim against the stream on this team on CP?

Be ready to handle it.
Necessary re-post.

Laz is certainly an asshat.
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You can qualify that by saying the Chiefs have had two shots at a true franchise QB in four offseasons -- reaching for Dalton or ripping Manning from Elway's clutches -- and has had to essentially completely rebuild a shit roster that just went 2-14.
They have a shot EVERY year.

They choose not to take it.

Ask Washington how to get a QB when you're not drafting Top 2.
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Why should Pioli get the benefit of the doubt?

He inherited Hali, Johnson, Flowers, Charles, Carr, Albert and Bowe yet with that much talent at incredibly key positions he's managed to turn in 2 awful seasons with 1 mediocre season sandwiched in the middle.

Do SOMETHING and he'll get the benefit of the doubt from me.

All I see is someone that is still coasting off his NE pedigree. But the problem is that he's gone from NE and yet NE is doing the same thing, year in, year out, that they did when he was there. Kinda suggests that maybe he wasn't the reason for those successes now doesn't it?

When he can reverse the ratios from having 1 2011 draft for 3 2009, 10 and 12 drafts to have 3 2011 drafts to every 1 of those abortions, I'll consider giving him the benefit of the doubt.

But hey - at least he's taking his undersized injury cases and kick returners in the 4th and 5th rounds now instead of the 2nd. So he's learning.
I am quoting this post to show my agreement with it's content.

Hater.
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