Junior Seau dead, probable suicide

[Aries Walker]

To anyone who thinks depression is a crutch, and discounts its severity: Consider yourself lucky. Speaking as someone who, while I don't have it myself, has been around it and its trail of devastation for decades now, I hope you never have reason to change your mind.

Originally Posted by Aries Walker

To anyone who thinks depression is a crutch, and discounts its severity: Consider yourself lucky. Speaking as someone who, while I don't have it myself, has been around it and its trail of devastation for decades now, I hope you never have reason to change your mind.

We're excusing people for killing themselves. That's never going to be okay with me - ESPECIALLY when you leave children behind. I know depression is awful.

[Aries Walker]

Originally Posted by Phobia

We're excusing people for killing themselves. That's never going to be okay with me - ESPECIALLY when you leave children behind. I know depression is awful.

I don't think you really do.

Originally Posted by Aries Walker

I don't think you really do.

Do you need a doctor's note or will you just take my word for it? I can have a different opinion and still have an understanding. It's still legal.

[Aries Walker]

Originally Posted by Phobia

Do you need a doctor's note or will you just take my word for it? I can have a different opinion and still have an understanding. It's still legal.

Well, I don't know you, of course, except from what I see here, and of course we each have our own opinions (that's a good thing, actually). What you've been saying for the past couple of pages makes me think that you haven't really lived with someone who has serious, chronic, clinical depression, and maybe you don't have a full grasp of it.

Which is fine, unless a) you exhibit this level of vehemence towards someone who is suffering badly from it, or b) you have to live with it yourself sometime in the future. I hope neither happens, but my advice to you is to ease up on the outright dismissal of its severity a little, and maybe soak in a little of what everyone else in this thread is saying.

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Originally Posted by Aries Walker

Well, I don't know you, of course, except from what I see here, and of course we each have our own opinions (that's a good thing, actually). What you've been saying for the past couple of pages makes me think that you haven't really lived with someone who has serious, chronic, clinical depression, and maybe you don't have a full grasp of it.

Which is fine, unless a) you exhibit this level of vehemence towards someone who is suffering badly from it, or b) you have to live with it yourself sometime in the future. I hope neither happens, but my advice to you is to ease up on the outright dismissal of its severity a little, and maybe soak in a little of what everyone else in this thread is saying.

Well said.

Originally Posted by Aries Walker

Well, I don't know you, of course, except from what I see here, and of course we each have our own opinions (that's a good thing, actually). What you've been saying for the past couple of pages makes me think that you haven't really lived with someone who has serious, chronic, clinical depression, and maybe you don't have a full grasp of it.

Which is fine, unless a) you exhibit this level of vehemence towards someone who is suffering badly from it, or b) you have to live with it yourself sometime in the future. I hope neither happens, but my advice to you is to ease up on the outright dismissal of its severity a little, and maybe soak in a little of what everyone else in this thread is saying.

I don't say anything to anybody who is suffering. I go out of my way to help anybody and everybody. But once they end it, that's final. It's over.