Yet another "Hate on" Matt Casshole thread

[Kerberos]

So I'm reading about Matt Flynn being the QB of the Seahawks and here is an excerpt from the story.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story...att-flynn-2012

Can Seattle contend with Flynn?


Does Flynn have the ability to stretch the field? Here and there he can, but it won't be a consistent portion of Seattle's attack -- nor will deep throws outside the numbers. And Flynn simply won't attempt some of the more difficult throws, which opposing defensive coordinators will be quick to catch on to. Flynn needs to realize that punting isn't the end of the world with Seattle's strong defense,and I expect Flynn to understand this much like Matt Cassel does for the Kansas City Chiefs.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Well played...

Thank you, i'll be here all week, please tip your waitress.

[Ugly Duck]

Originally Posted by scott free

Yep, doesnt matter what kind of shitty era (the Broncos) happen to be in, they still get trumped up

You mean stuff like this? ESPN sees a better future for Denver (even post-Manning) than it does for for KC & Oaktown.

ESPN Insider.....NFL Future Power Rankings: Evaluating the core of every franchise as it projects for the 2015 season By Trent Dilfer, Mel Kiper, Gary Horton, Matt Williamson

San Diego: Ranked 15th

Roster: The Chargers have some promising youth at running back, wide receiver, linebacker and defensive line, but the offensive line really has me worried -- and rebuilding a front five isn't easy to pull off. I would also like to see some defensive star power emerge. DE Melvin Ingram could be exactly that type of addition. -- Williamson

Quarterback: The 2011 campaign was a crossroads season for Philip Rivers. Now 30, this coming season could help define the direction for his career. He hasn't won a playoff game since 2008, even as he has put up big numbers. I expect him to bounce back from a 20-INT 2011, but he needs help -- TE Antonio Gates can't play forever. -- Dilfer

Draft: The 2010 draft will be called a bust if RB Ryan Mathews can't become a true No. 1 back. But 2011 and 2012 have served to add depth and potentially a difference-maker or two. If Ingram becomes a star, don't be surprised. -- Kiper

Front office: The Chargers' front office has come under a lot of scrutiny of late -- and deserved much of it. I have mixed feelings for how well this team is built for three years down the road. And where will Rivers be at that point? -- Williamson

Coaching: Norv Turner, a great offensive mind, is perennially on the hot seat as head coach. He needs to put together an impressive season in 2012 or we could certainly see someone new roaming the sidelines in San Diego. -- Williamson

Denver: Ranked 18th

Roster: LB Von Miller should be among the best defensive players in the NFL in 2015, but overall, I don't see a wealth of real young talent on Denver's roster. This past draft was marginal, as I don't see an immediate starter in the group. -- Williamson

Quarterback: His full recovery isn't yet complete, but Peyton Manning looks good. There's no real debate: fully healthy, he gives Denver one of the best handful of QBs in the NFL. The shelf-life is a question, but at 36, Manning can give them several elite years. Brock Osweiler awaits, though he needs time. -- Dilfer

Draft: Still amazing that Tim Tebow went in Round 1, but Miller was a home run the following year. It's all about maximizing the three to four years of the Peyton Manning tenure now. -- Kiper

Front office: John Elway is new at this and the jury is still out, but you have to commend this front office for bringing in a Hall of Fame quarterback to lead the team. How will this team look in 2015 without Manning? Who knows. But by making a bold move in adding Manning they've earned my faith that they can properly manage that hurdle when the time comes. -- Williamson

Coaching: John Fox is an established and respected head coach who adjusted his offense for his quarterback last season and should do the same with a much better QB in 2012. Fox seems like an excellent fit in Denver now and for years ahead. -- Williamson

Kansas City: Ranked 25th

Roster: With the exception of the QB position, which doesn't factor in with this category, I love the Chiefs' young group of high-end talent in players such as S Eric Berry, TE Tony Moeaki and LB Justin Houston. They are loaded going forward and I think coach Romeo Crennel & Co. will make a star out of NT Dontari Poe. -- Williamson

Quarterback: Matt Cassel was actually very good in 2010. Note the 27-7 TD-to-INT ratio. But he's back to proving if he's a franchise QB in 2012, and has to, given his contract situation and a loaded 2013 draft for QBs. -- Dilfer

Draft: A return to health for Berry will mean a lot, given they've had some weak returns from high draft picks in recent years, such as DEs Glenn Dorsey and Tyson Jackson. Poe is the guy to watch; he's a boom-or-bust pick. -- Kiper

Front office: GM Scott Pioli & Co. have built a team that is dripping with young talent. But if Cassel isn't a true franchise quarterback -- and I have serious doubts that he is -- the Chiefs might not ever get to where they want to be. -- Williamson

Coaching: Crennel is a great defensive mind, and he needs to show that he is just as capable as a head coach. The Chiefs get a ton of talent back from last year and Crennel & Co. need to capitalize upon it immediately. -- Williamson

Oakland Raiders: Ranked 29th.

Roster: With little in terms of 2012 draft picks, the Raiders' new coaching staff was severely hampered in its ability to acquire their type of players. It's going to be a real uphill climb in that regard and you have to think that DT Richard Seymour and RB Darren McFadden will have little value three years down the road. -- Williamson

Quarterback: Palmer is a gifted thrower of the football but is still prone to mistakes. He needs to be very good for the Raiders to succeed with a limited supporting cast at receiver, or they could draft a QB to develop next season. Do people realize Palmer is just a year older than Eli Manning? -- Dilfer

Draft: The Raiders have quietly landed a ton of late-round value in recent years. But no Round 1 picks in two straight years (2011, 2012) basically costs a team two starters and the potential for stars. A new front office promises major changes. I have a lot of confidence in this program going forward, and fans should as well. -- Kiper

Front office: It looks like the Raiders have the right people in place and this front office did quite a bit without any cards in their hand this offseason. There is a much different way of doing things now in terms of player evaluations in Oakland and if given time -- maybe a lot of time -- it should pay off down the road. -- Williamson

Coaching: With a new coaching staff in place you would think they would be safe for a while, but this is the Raiders we are talking about. Still, this coaching staff remains an unknown at the present. -- Williamson

[Easy 6]

I know right? doesnt matter what they do.

I'm pretty sure it has something to do with their creepy ass airport...

[Ugly Duck]

Originally Posted by scott free

I know right? doesnt matter what they do.

ESPN likes Denver's future because they "overall, don't see a wealth of real young talent on Denver's roster."

ESPN doesn't like KC's future because they "love the Chiefs' young group of high-end talent."

[L.A. Chieffan]

Field position is a very underrated part of the game.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Ugly Duck

ESPN likes Denver's future because they "overall, don't see a wealth of real young talent on Denver's roster."

ESPN doesn't like KC's future because they "love the Chiefs' young group of high-end talent."

Wow

[Rasputin]

With Matt Cassel it's best to run a RRP offense. That's run, run, & punt on third down.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Ugly Duck

Evaluating the core of every franchise as it projects for the 2015 season By Trent Dilfer, Mel Kiper, Gary Horton, Matt Williamson

[Ace Gunner]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Reading all the Cassel threads is like masturbating with sandpaper..

Extremely painful...

Rehashed info from thread to thread....

apparently you forget how it is to watch cassel play. lose, I mean.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Reading all the Cassel threads is like masturbating with sandpaper..

Extremely painful...

Rehashed info from thread to thread....

I hope you know this from actual experience, and the end result is that procreation is not in your future.

[okcchief]

[QUOTE=Ugly Duck;8636668]You mean stuff like this? ESPN sees a better future for Denver (even post-Manning) than it does for for KC & Oaktown.

ESPN Insider.....NFL Future Power Rankings: Evaluating the core of every franchise as it projects for the 2015 season By Trent Dilfer, Mel Kiper, Gary Horton, Matt Williamson

San Diego: Ranked 15th

Roster: The Chargers have some promising youth at running back, wide receiver, linebacker and defensive line, but the offensive line really has me worried -- and rebuilding a front five isn't easy to pull off. I would also like to see some defensive star power emerge. DE Melvin Ingram could be exactly that type of addition. -- Williamson

Quarterback: The 2011 campaign was a crossroads season for Philip Rivers. Now 30, this coming season could help define the direction for his career. He hasn't won a playoff game since 2008, even as he has put up big numbers. I expect him to bounce back from a 20-INT 2011, but he needs help -- TE Antonio Gates can't play forever. -- Dilfer

Draft: The 2010 draft will be called a bust if RB Ryan Mathews can't become a true No. 1 back. But 2011 and 2012 have served to add depth and potentially a difference-maker or two. If Ingram becomes a star, don't be surprised. -- Kiper

Front office: The Chargers' front office has come under a lot of scrutiny of late -- and deserved much of it. I have mixed feelings for how well this team is built for three years down the road. And where will Rivers be at that point? -- Williamson

Coaching: Norv Turner, a great offensive mind, is perennially on the hot seat as head coach. He needs to put together an impressive season in 2012 or we could certainly see someone new roaming the sidelines in San Diego. -- Williamson

Denver: Ranked 18th

Roster: LB Von Miller should be among the best defensive players in the NFL in 2015, but overall, I don't see a wealth of real young talent on Denver's roster. This past draft was marginal, as I don't see an immediate starter in the group. -- Williamson

Quarterback: His full recovery isn't yet complete, but Peyton Manning looks good. There's no real debate: fully healthy, he gives Denver one of the best handful of QBs in the NFL. The shelf-life is a question, but at 36, Manning can give them several elite years. Brock Osweiler awaits, though he needs time. -- Dilfer

Draft: Still amazing that Tim Tebow went in Round 1, but Miller was a home run the following year. It's all about maximizing the three to four years of the Peyton Manning tenure now. -- Kiper

Front office: John Elway is new at this and the jury is still out, but you have to commend this front office for bringing in a Hall of Fame quarterback to lead the team. How will this team look in 2015 without Manning? Who knows. But by making a bold move in adding Manning they've earned my faith that they can properly manage that hurdle when the time comes. -- Williamson

Coaching: John Fox is an established and respected head coach who adjusted his offense for his quarterback last season and should do the same with a much better QB in 2012. Fox seems like an excellent fit in Denver now and for years ahead. -- Williamson

Kansas City: Ranked 25th

Roster: With the exception of the QB position, which doesn't factor in with this category, I love the Chiefs' young group of high-end talent in players such as S Eric Berry, TE Tony Moeaki and LB Justin Houston. They are loaded going forward and I think coach Romeo Crennel & Co. will make a star out of NT Dontari Poe. -- Williamson





I saw this yesterday and it makes no sense. Their top 10 was pretty much a mirror of the top 10 teams now. Thats just not going to happen. This project was a waste of time. ESPN is really mailing it in now a days.

[Red Dawg]

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