Chiefs Hey, Reerun: Matt Cassel sucks

Colt4540 · 05-24-2012, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

He started in college.

He's 6 yrs younger. Upside.

And where is that upside? Two coaches and he's still the bottom of the barrel. You have to show improvement to have an upside.

Cornstock · 05-24-2012, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Colt4540

And where is that upside? Two coaches and he's still the bottom of the barrel. You have to show improvement to have an upside.

He showed promise in the preseason last year, and from everything we've read, they decided not to play him last year because they wanted to save him. Aside from scrambling around and making some heroic plays behind a lackluster line there wasn't much room for success had he played at the end of the year. Personally, would I have played him? I would have liked to see him get some experience, so yes. But I can see the logic in keeping him out to avoid David Carr syndrome.

If he shows improvement this preseason then we will have our answer. If he does well and there is upside he is worth throwing in there to let him learn, even if he makes the inevitable young QB mistakes. Unfortunately, Cassel is 30 and is still making the same young QB mistakes.

Colt4540 · 05-24-2012, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Cornstock

He showed promise in the preseason last year, and from everything we've read, they decided not to play him last year because they wanted to save him. Aside from scrambling around and making some heroic plays behind a lackluster line there wasn't much room for success had he played at the end of the year. Personally, would I have played him? I would have liked to see him get some experience, so yes. But I can see the logic in keeping him out to avoid David Carr syndrome.

If he shows improvement this preseason then we will have our answer. If he does well and there is upside he is worth throwing in there to let him learn, even if he makes the inevitable young QB mistakes. Unfortunately, Cassel is 30 and is still making the same young QB mistakes.

I hardly consider one half ass show out against St. Louis scrubs promise.

Cornstock · 05-24-2012, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Colt4540

I hardly consider one half ass show out against St. Louis scrubs promise.

Why not? it was their scrubs against our scrubbiest of all scrubs. Their defensive scrubs were good enough to hold down even our first team O. Stanzi came in, showed some real spunk, and basically willed the ball down the field. It wasn't enough to "crown his ass" but it showed us that he's not chicken shit. All I'm talking about is Stanzi's potential here. He hasn't done anything to show that he has none, but instead shown that he's got some balls and can score when he's outmanned. It remains to be seen if he's good enough to be a starter, but if his full potential is realized, he would be better than Cassel.

**BigMeatballDave** · 05-24-2012, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Colt4540

And where is that upside? Two coaches and he's still the bottom of the barrel. You have to show improvement to have an upside.

The point is, Einstein, he is 6 yrs younger than Cassel. More time for him to develop. Cassel will be 30. He's reached his ceiling. Plus, he started in college. Cassel didnt see action at QB in college.

Colt4540 · 05-24-2012, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

The point is, Einstein, he is 6 yrs younger than Cassel. More time for him to develop. Cassel will be 30. He's reached his ceiling. Plus, he started in college. Cassel didnt he see action at QB in college.

So let's throw away the next few years and hope that a long shot 5th round pick will lead us to the promise land. He is still not NFL ready clearly. Just because he has the time to develop doesn't mean he will. Like I told SNR, find me 6 years from now and tell me if Ricky Stanzi amounts to shit.

**BigMeatballDave** · 05-24-2012, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Colt4540

So let's throw away the next few years and hope that a long shot 5th round pick will lead us to the promise land. He is still not NFL ready clearly. Just because he has the time to develop doesn't mean he will. Like I told SNR, find me 6 years from now and tell me if Ricky Stanzi amounts to shit.

Wow. You are clueless.

I have no idea how good/bad Stanzi is.

My point is, I'd rather watch Stanzi over Cassel.

We already know Cassel sucks.

We dont know what Stanzi is.

You simply saying Stanzi wont amount to shit does little to persuade me.

**RealSNR** · 05-24-2012, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

Wow. You are clueless.

I have no idea how good/bad Stanzi is.

My point is, I'd rather watch Stanzi over Cassel.

We already know Cassel sucks.

We dont know what Stanzi is.

You simply saying Stanzi wont amount to shit does little to persuade me.

I was going to write a long-winded post, but instead I'll just say "this"

Cornstock · 05-25-2012, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR

I was going to write a long-winded post, but instead I'll just say "this"

And I'll say "this" to your "this"

**RealSNR** · 05-25-2012, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Cornstock

And I'll say "this" to your "this"

This

Colt4540 · 05-25-2012, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave

Wow. You are clueless.

I have no idea how good/bad Stanzi is.

My point is, I'd rather watch Stanzi over Cassel.

We already know Cassel sucks.

We dont know what Stanzi is.

You simply saying Stanzi wont amount to shit does little to persuade me.

There is a reason Stanzi doesn't play. People who know a hell of a lot more about football than any of us have figured it out. They see a lot more than we do. We went to the playoffs with a shitty D and Cassel, put Stanzi in and we're not even .500.

**RealSNR** · 05-25-2012, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Colt4540

There is a reason Stanzi doesn't play. People who know a hell of a lot more about football than any of us have figured it out. They see a lot more than we do. We went to the playoffs with a shitty D and Cassel, put Stanzi in and we're not even .500.

Ahh, this is my favorite True Fan fallacy. I love it.

Also, 2010's defense wasn't shitty, dumbass.

LOCOChief · 05-25-2012, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Ahh, this is my favorite True Fan fallacy. I love it.

Also, 2010's defense wasn't shitty, dumbass.

The coaches knowing more than you is a fallacy?

SNR you're one of the biggest douch bags on this board (I'd say in the top 5) Now change your account settings to delete and go **** yourself you ignorant pussy

And by the way, how the hell does someone have as much time to post on this site as you do?

**BossChief** · 05-25-2012, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Colt4540

There is a reason Stanzi doesn't play. People who know a hell of a lot more about football than any of us have figured it out. They see a lot more than we do. We went to the playoffs with a shitty D and Cassel, put Stanzi in and we're not even .500.

haha

Give me 5 plays Cassel has ever made for this team that Stanzi couldn't.

King_Chief_Fan · 05-25-2012, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

haha

Give me 5 plays Cassel has ever made for this team that Stanzi couldn't.

it must be most of them as Stanzi can't even get on the field.