Elvis Dumervil arrested

[Quesadilla Joe]

The Miami-Dade (Fla.) court website confirms Elvis Dumervil was arrested for aggravated assault with a firearm.

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[wazu]

Police report points to road rage in Dumervil*arrest

Posted by Josh Alper on July 16, 2012, 10:21 AM EDT

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Some details about what led to Broncos defensive end Elvis Dumervil’s arrest in Miami over the weekend have come to light.

Mike Klis of the Denver Post had a look at the police report which describes a scene of road rage that tipped over into an arrest. Dumervil and another man were driving on Collins Avenue in Miami on Saturday afternoon when a white Impala cut them off and witnesses said that led to horn blowing and verbal threats from Dumervil’s vehicle. Dumervil and the other man, Andy Auguste, are accused of then approaching the Impala when traffic stopped and lifting up their shirts to display firearms.

Police were called and they caught up to Dumervil’s car while it was still stopped in traffic. Officers asked Dumervil if there was a gun in the car, he said no and a search of the glove compartment turned one up. Dumervil and Auguste were both arrested at that point.

Dumervil’s attorney Harvey Steinberg said Sunday that it is unlikely that charges will be filed in the case, although there’s been no comment to that effect from police in Miami. Dumervil was released on $7,500 bail and now awaits the next steps in the case.

[notorious]

No charges on a concealed weapon?

Yeah, right.

[Quesadilla Joe]

According the police report, much of her statement concurred with the victim's statements, although the witness added the passenger victim got out of the white Impala and yelled back at the occupants in Dumervil's Land Rover. The Victoria's Secret employee further stated that during the argument the driver of the White Impala threw an unknown object that struck Dumervil's Range Rover.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci...medium=twitter

Doesn't sound like Dumervil did any assaulting.

[wazu]

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci...medium=twitter

Doesn't sound like Dumervil did any assaulting.

I know, right? All they did was threaten a guy while brandishing some guns. Don't see what all the fuss is about. This is just Broncos bein Broncos.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci...medium=twitter

Doesn't sound like Dumervil did any assaulting.

I'm not 100% sure of this, but I believe that threatening someone with a gun is called assault. You don't have to make any kind of physical contact.

EDIT: Here's the definition of the law in Florida:

The crime of Aggravated Assault is defined as:

• An intentional and unlawful threat - by word or act - to commit violence against another person;
• With the apparent ability to carry through with the threat at the time it was made;
• And the threat created a genuine fear in the intended victim that the violence was imminent; and
• The accused made the threat:
  • With a Deadly Weapon, or
  • In the commission of a Felony.

So basically, if he really did approach the car and threaten them by lifting up the shirt and exposing his gun, he's got problems.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci...medium=twitter

Doesn't sound like Dumervil did any assaulting.

Originally Posted by wazu

I know, right? All they did was threaten a guy while brandishing some guns. Don't see what all the fuss is about. This is just Broncos bein Broncos.

Originally Posted by DaFace

I'm not 100% sure of this, but I believe that threatening someone with a gun is called assault. You don't have to make any kind of physical contact.

EDIT: Here's the definition of the law in Florida:



So basically, if he really did approach the car and threaten them by lifting up the shirt and exposing his gun, he's got problems.

Uh-oh......

Spin, Knowmo! Spin this yarn!!

[Quesadilla Joe]

So if you have a gun permit for self defense when is it OK to brandish your weapon?

If someone is screaming at you and throwing shit at your car would it be wrong to show the person that you have a gun and that they probably shouldn't escalate the situation? You don't point it at them, but you let them know you have one.

What is wrong with that?

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

That's a darned shame. I was looking forward to hearing that the Broncos were having an embarrassing season at full strength.

Wait, what? Did you have a falling out with Denver over the whole Tebow thing, "ClevelandJet"?

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning

So if you have a gun permit for self defense when is it OK to brandish your weapon?

If someone is screaming at you and throwing shit at your car would it be wrong to show the person that you have a gun and that they probably shouldn't escalate the situation? You don't point it at them, but you let them know you have one.

What is wrong with that?

I'm no lawyer, but I'm going to assume that throwing a half full McDonald's cup isn't quite the same as showing shomeone that you're strapped and ready to pull. Kind of elevates the situation to the next level, wouldn't you agree?

The only way to know for sure is if you were to act out these actions in the real world, and see what punishment you end up with. Report back whenever you make bond, ok?

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning

So if you have a gun permit for self defense when is it OK to brandish your weapon?

If someone is screaming at you and throwing shit at your car would it be wrong to show the person that you have a gun and that they probably shouldn't escalate the situation? You don't point it at them, but you let them know you have one.

What is wrong with that?

If you really feel the need, read up on all the Treyvon Martin/George Zimmerman stuff. Concealed carry permits are only meant to give someone permission to pull the gun if they fear their life is in danger. If you pull the gun first, you're the aggressor and are on the hook.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Here is the police report. http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/...medium=twitter

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by wazu

Dumervil and the other man, Andy Auguste, are accused of then approaching the Impala when traffic stopped and lifting up their shirts to display firearms.

clowns

[BossChief]

How can someone bail out on an an aggravated gun charge without charges being filed?

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning

So if you have a gun permit for self defense when is it OK to brandish your weapon?

If someone is screaming at you and throwing shit at your car would it be wrong to show the person that you have a gun and that they probably shouldn't escalate the situation? You don't point it at them, but you let them know you have one.

What is wrong with that?

This is some of your finest work.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by BossChief

How can someone bail out on an an aggravated gun charge without charges being filed?

The report released this am was the initial investigation that led to arrest. Will be up to DA whether to file formal charges.

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