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Old 07-27-2012, 11:05 PM  
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Mike Wallace could be traded

Do not be surprised if Steelers trade Mike Wallace during training camp. They no longer believe they can sign him long term.

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Old 07-28-2012, 10:28 AM   #46
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As of July 1st, here were the top teams with the most salary cap space:

Jacksonville Jaguars: $25,115,885
Tennessee Titans: $19,970,080
Cleveland Browns: $17,774,764
Kansas City Chiefs: $16,548,048
Cincinnati Bengals: $16,309,693
Philadelphia Eagles: $15,879,570
Tampa Bay Buccaneers: $15,740,231
Indianapolis Colts: $14,595,514
Green Bay Packers: $11,255,804
Denver Broncos: $10,878,461
New England Patriots: $10,873,988

While I'd love to dream about Wallace in a Flying Elvis helmet, and we all can worry about Peyton-to-Wallace, the truth is that the Chiefs are the team with more room, if they ever decide to stop being cheap. (Yeah, the Jags, Titans, and Browns have even more room... but I don't see those teams doing anything.)
The Browns and the Bucs make a ton of sense.
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Old 07-28-2012, 10:33 AM   #47
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Fine is a relative word. Do you think they would have lost the Super Bowl against the Packers had Santonio Holmes been a member of their squad? I don't.
Really? I don't think it mattered. I think I'd rather have Mike Wallace than Holmes. But I really like Wallace, his speed is incredible.

Most importantly though, Aaron Rodgers was in a zone than almost no other QB has ever been in for that playoff run. That was some of the best QB play the NFL has ever seen. Nobody was beating that team.
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Old 07-28-2012, 10:38 AM   #48
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Really? I don't think it mattered. I think I'd rather have Mike Wallace than Holmes. But I really like Wallace, his speed is incredible.

Most importantly though, Aaron Rodgers was in a zone than almost no other QB has ever been in for that playoff run. That was some of the best QB play the NFL has ever seen. Nobody was beating that team.
Um, do you remember the game? Ben was awful, throwing interception after interception and one for a TD. The Steelers came back and lost 31-25.

It's only speculation but had Holmes been on that team, he would have been the difference. Regardless, I don't think that trading Holmes for a 5th round choice was the best move for the Steelers.
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Old 07-28-2012, 10:41 AM   #49
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This is true. The Steelers physically controlled that game. Ben had some really bad moments that blew it.
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Old 07-28-2012, 10:41 AM   #50
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The Browns and the Bucs make a ton of sense.
The Browns are in the middle of being sold and the Bucs and Schiano won't deal with a miscontent.
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Old 07-28-2012, 10:47 AM   #51
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The Browns are in the middle of being sold and the Bucs and Schiano won't deal with a miscontent.
They just signed Vincent Jackson who was having the exact same kind of contract dispute with his former team.
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Old 07-28-2012, 10:51 AM   #52
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I guess my recollection of that game is different than everyone else's. The Packers jumped out to a big lead... the Steelers came back, but Mike Wallace had a nice game. Either way Rodgers outplayed Roethlisberger regardless of who the WR's were.

Rodgers was playing at a near flawless level in that playoffs. Nobody was beating that team. I didn't think this was even debatable. It was really something to watch. It's amazing how quickly people forget things.
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Old 07-28-2012, 10:52 AM   #53
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They just signed Vincent Jackson who was having the exact same kind of contract dispute with his former team.
Which is another reason why they won't be giving up picks for Mike Wallace.
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Old 07-28-2012, 10:55 AM   #54
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I guess my recollection of that game is different than everyone else's. The Packers jumped out to a big lead... the Steelers came back, but Mike Wallace had a nice game. Either way Rodgers outplayed Roethlisberger regardless of who the WR's were.
Wallace: 9 receptions, 89 yards, 1 TD, long 25
Ward: 7 receptions, 78 yards, 1 TD, 17 long
Randle El: 2 receptions, 50 yards
Sanders: 2 receptions, 17 yards
Miller: 2 receptions, 12 yards.

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Rodgers was playing at a near flawless level in that playoffs. Nobody was beating that team. I didn't think this was even debatable. It was really something to watch. It's amazing how quickly people forget things.
Um, the Steelers beat themselves. In addition to Ben's two interceptions (one for a TD), they had a fumble early. They came out extremely flat, yet only lost by six.

The Packers won, but not because they were unbeatable.
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Old 07-28-2012, 11:00 AM   #55
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Well this is the NFL. No one is unbeatable. Otherwise you're just being arbitrary. Heck, I'd give you Ward, Wallace, and Holmes... I'd still take 2010 Rodgers over them. That was a really good team. That's why they went out and won 18 or 19 in a row or whatever it was. That doesn't guarantee winning a single game... but that was a really good team. Rodgers was in a zone that few, if any QB's have ever been in. I just don't think he would've let them lose. That was truly some of the best QB play I have ever seen. That doesn't even include that Rodgers can make throws 95% of QB's can't make... just from a pure quality of play standpoint he was amazing.
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Old 07-28-2012, 11:05 AM   #56
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2010 Rodgers was great. 2011 Rodgers was incredible. They nearly missed the playoffs in 2010 with a ton of injuries.
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2011 Rodgers was mostly an extension of 2010 Rodgers in the playoffs. That's why they won the Super Bowl. He was amazing. The only team that slowed him down really was Chicago. That game against the Falcons was an all-timer.
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Old 07-28-2012, 11:23 AM   #58
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I've never felt sorry for a team, not even Miami in Dan Marino's last game which was a horrible way to go out. Damn if I didn't feel bad for Atlanta for what Rodgers did to them that day.
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Old 07-28-2012, 12:33 PM   #59
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Doesn't matter. Pioli/Hunt aren't going to pay big $ for a WR.
They know what they have at QB. It would be a waste to pay for a speed guy. Makes more sense to pay Bowe and they didn't do that.

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This is just a ridiculous comment. It doesn't matter who the qb is. Defenses still have to respect Wallace's speed. Even with Cassel at qb you still can stretch the defense with a guy like Wallace.
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