Mike Wallace could be traded

[Quesadilla Joe]

Do not be surprised if Steelers trade Mike Wallace during training camp. They no longer believe they can sign him long term.

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[In58men]

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Evan Silva ‏@evansilva

The Pittsburgh Trib-Review says Mike Wallace wants V-Jax money ($11.1 million annually), not Fitzgerald money ($15M): http://bit.ly/mpMpS3

Chiefs should pay the man.

[TimeForWasp]

Mark Castle

[whoman69]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Um, do you remember the game? Ben was awful, throwing interception after interception and one for a TD. The Steelers came back and lost 31-25.

It's only speculation but had Holmes been on that team, he would have been the difference. Regardless, I don't think that trading Holmes for a 5th round choice was the best move for the Steelers.

Holmes is such a great teamate too.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by whoman69

Holmes is such a great teamate too.

If that's the goal of an NFL team, I guess the Chiefs win the Championship.

[bricks]

Originally Posted by Laz

what do you mean they aren't very good at it?

They seem to be putting together a very talent team in very sustainable way.

They seem to be only 1 stud player away from being a legit super bowl challenger. Admittedly that 1 player is at the QB position but it's still only one player.


people act like the entire team is a pile of shit


If .......... Stanzi works out then i fail to see much fault with how Pioli has put the team together. He has a rough 1st draft because of a very short draft prep time. He traded for a couple of solid transition guys in Cassel/Vrabel and then replaced them as the team became more established. Outside of Todd 'captain insano' Haley, Pioli did the rebuild almost perfectly.


nevermind ... let the drama queens continue

The Chiefs do have talent but it's not at the level of the Steelers. Sorry. You have to look at the facts and stare at them good. Pitt makes the playoffs every year and win championships and the Chiefs don't. There is a reason. There are just better in most conceivable categories.

They have a better overall defense in every possible way. Better LBing corps, better DC IMO. Better DL, NT, S you name it except CBs. Better overall team chemistry.

Sorry the Chiefs don't have the statistics either to compete like Pittsburgh. Are the Chiefs # 1 at stopping the run every year? Nope. Do the Chiefs have the passrush like Pitt? Nope. Yes, I love Hali & Houston seems like an up and & comer but in no way are both as good as Woodley & Harrison.

Pitt is top 10 in defense every year. Are the Chiefs? Talk to me when they are consistently fielding a good defense every single year.

Has the scouting staff and coaches found and develop players on both sides of the ball like the way the Steelers do? Steelers can lose players and get away with it more so than the Chiefs because they have the FO, scouting staff and coaches that are more competent at evaluating and developing players. It really comes down to that. Chiefs are getting better at it lately, but not at the level of Pitt. Sorry. Hey, I admit it. I like the Chiefs but they are in no way good enough.

I'm proud to see that they motto teams like Pitt. They should be.

IF Stanzi pans out it'll do the Chiefs wonders. I agree with you. But it's a lot to hope for. For a 5th round pick to come in and light it up and take the team on his shoulders the way a guy like Roethlisberger can.

I give Pioli some credit for rebuilding but the core of this team he inherited from Herm era.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Evan Silva ‏@evansilva

The Pittsburgh Trib-Review says Mike Wallace wants V-Jax money ($11.1 million annually), not Fitzgerald money ($15M): http://bit.ly/mpMpS3

Thought so. Bowe is probably asking for 12.5 to 13.5 mil annually based on this.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by bricks

The Chiefs do have talent but it's not at the level of the Steelers. Sorry. You have to look at the facts and stare at them good. Pitt makes the playoffs every year and win championships and the Chiefs don't. There is a reason. There are just better in most conceivable categories.

They have a better overall defense in every possible way. Better LBing corps, better DC IMO. Better DL, NT, S you name it except CBs. Better overall team chemistry.

Sorry the Chiefs don't have the statistics either to compete like Pittsburgh. Are the Chiefs # 1 at stopping the run every year? Nope. Do the Chiefs have the passrush like Pitt? Nope. Yes, I love Hali & Houston seems like an up and & comer but in no way are both as good as Woodley & Harrison.

Pitt is top 10 in defense every year. Are the Chiefs? Talk to me when they are consistently fielding a good defense every single year.

Has the scouting staff and coaches found and develop players on both sides of the ball like the way the Steelers do? Steelers can lose players and get away with it more so than the Chiefs because they have the FO, scouting staff and coaches that are more competent at evaluating and developing players. It really comes down to that. Chiefs are getting better at it lately, but not at the level of Pitt. Sorry. Hey, I admit it. I like the Chiefs but they are in no way good enough.

I'm proud to see that they motto teams like Pitt. They should be.

IF Stanzi pans out it'll do the Chiefs wonders. I agree with you. But it's a lot to hope for. For a 5th round pick to come in and light it up and take the team on his shoulders the way a guy like Roethlisberger can.

I give Pioli some credit for rebuilding but the core of this team he inherited from Herm era.

This is some of the funniest shit I've read in a long, long time. Are you here all week?

[-King-]

Originally Posted by bricks

I give Pioli some credit for rebuilding but the core of this team he inherited from Herm era.

It's always hilarious when people say this bullshit.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by bricks

The Chiefs do have talent but it's not at the level of the Steelers. Sorry. You have to look at the facts and stare at them good. Pitt makes the playoffs every year and win championships and the Chiefs don't. There is a reason. There are just better in most conceivable categories.

Pitt has been going 2 in/1 out with the playoffs since 2001, and they've missed the playoffs 6 times since 1997. That's better than the Chiefs, and it's certainly impressive, but let's not make the Steelers out to be something they aren't.

[bricks]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

This is some of the funniest shit I've read in a long, long time. Are you here all week?

It'll be funny when the Chiefs go 7-9 or 8-8. Which is what they do pretty much every year. While the Steelers will go 12-4, 11-5, or 10-6 winning the division or getting that wildcard spot and competing in the playoffs.

[bricks]

Originally Posted by Just Not Gettin' It

Pitt has been going 2 in/1 out with the playoffs since 2001, and they've missed the playoffs 6 times since 1997. That's better than the Chiefs, and it's certainly impressive, but let's not make the Steelers out to be something they aren't.

Oh sorry I wasn't exactly specific.

[tk13]

Originally Posted by Just Not Gettin' It

Pitt has been going 2 in/1 out with the playoffs since 2001, and they've missed the playoffs 6 times since 1997. That's better than the Chiefs, and it's certainly impressive, but let's not make the Steelers out to be something they aren't.

Yeah but by the same token, the Patriots, Colts and Steelers have represented in the AFC in the Super Bowl nine consecutive years, and 10 of the last 11. And that's supposed to be in the golden era of parity of the NFL.

[tk13]

And I've thrown this stat out before, but the Patriots, Steelers, Broncos, Bills and Colts have represented the AFC in 22 of the last 27 Super Bowls.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by bricks

It'll be funny when the Chiefs go 7-9 or 8-8. Which is what they do pretty much every year. While the Steelers will go 12-4, 11-5, or 10-6 winning the division or getting that wildcard spot and competing in the playoffs.

If Ben is injured, they won't win 6 games.

Furthermore, your entire exposition was extremely flawed. The Steelers offensive line has been awful for years, their running game has been crap and their defense has grown old. James Farrior? No.

The thing that differentiates the Steelers from the Chiefs is Ben Rothlisberger.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by tk13

Yeah but by the same token, the Patriots, Colts and Steelers have represented in the AFC in the Super Bowl nine consecutive years, and 10 of the last 11. And that's supposed to be in the golden era of parity of the NFL.

Absolutely. I just think that when people talk up the Steelers, they need to remember that they are 8 in and 6 out in terms of the last 14 seasons worth of playoffs. They've not been on a consistent level as much as they've had the ability to bounce back from lesser seasons.