Chiefs Thoughts on Preseason Game #2 - Page 34

**petegz28** · 08-18-2012, 08:32 PM

No sense in waiting for this to end.

Break it down

BoneKrusher · 08-20-2012, 06:31 AM

i have a question
whats up with Baldwin?
i thought this was gonna be his coming out season.
so far he's playing more like Alec Baldwin than Jon Baldwin.

**BigMeatballDave** · 08-20-2012, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher

i have a question
whats up with Baldwin?
i thought this was gonna be his coming out season.
so far he's playing more like Alec Baldwin than Jon Baldwin.

He's 2 games into the preseason.

Give it a regular season game, at least.

BoneKrusher · 08-20-2012, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave

He's 2 games into the preseason.

Give it a regular season game, at least.

yeah i know it's early but all the hype coming from TC was this guys turned into a monster.
in Saturdays game (2nd Quarter) he was going against the Rams second string and did nothing.

**bevischief** · 08-20-2012, 06:44 AM

Ask Cassel.

BoneKrusher · 08-20-2012, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by bevischief

Ask Cassel.

great point.
i just assumed since Cassel was throwing the ball at TC as well.

Chiefnj2 · 08-20-2012, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

Clay is onto something. Checkdowns are not going to get it done. Looks good on the stat sheet though.

Works well for Brady.

Cassel isn't Rodgers. He's never going to be a gunslinger. Plus, KC doesn't have that vertical threat yet. Maybe when Bowe comes back it'll help open things downfield, but KC is probably going to be a take-what-you give offense with a strong running attack. People keep wanting to force the offense to be something it isn't/can't. We saw what happened when Haley tried that last year.

People should be happy to some degree that the first team offense has: (1) looked efficient, (2) moved the ball, (3) scored some points. Stop bitching that they aren't achieving 1-3 the way the Packers and Saints do it.

Rasputin · 08-20-2012, 07:13 AM

I don't have a problem with short dink & dunk passes as long as we are moving the chains and end results is points on the scoreboard. If anything keep control of the ball & helps the defense rest up. I am also a fan of quick strikes downfield, but am most happy if what we do wins games.

I think Baldwin is going be just fine. I also think he is an asset in blocking down field in the running game. We are going see big time catches and plays out of Baldwin. His career just hasn't gotten off to a great start, but IMO he is sure the hell going make a mark for himself and be a productive KC Chief WR just got to wait & see.

Nightfyre · 08-20-2012, 08:02 AM

People don't want to force this offense into something it isn't. People want to take advantage of the weapons on the outside to stretch the field and allow dash and crash some space. If you took any top 15 qb and put him on this team, we are instant super bowl contenders. **** matt cassel for preventing this offense from being what it should be.

lcarus · 08-20-2012, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

Orton moved the ball because he threw the ball down the field.

Interestingly enough, the only good drive we had with Cassel in that game, the only TD we scored? He threw the ball down the field.

Funny how that works.

Don't go giving our offense any crazy ideas. Screens, dumpoffs, flats. That shall be all.

Dante84 · 08-20-2012, 09:15 AM

I really don't see us utilizing our WR's to their full potential this season, for better or worse. (meaning - id rather have the ball and get short yards, than have 3 turnovers per game).

Matt isn't good at throwing the long ball, or even the medium ball.

I see us running and dink-dunking us all the live-long day - Which is fine, so long as it works. We keep the ball longer, we move the chains, and we have the strength to convert TD's in the redzone, now that we have a complete running game.

Our bigger passing plays, 10+ yards, will go to Boss and TM.

That means the defense we will see will be spread out and close to the line. In this case we will benefit from play action and pump and go routes. If Cassel can be accurate with those, then our offense will be sick. I just think it will be rare if/when we do that.

crazycoffey · 08-20-2012, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher

i have a question
whats up with Baldwin?
i thought this was gonna be his coming out season.
so far he's playing more like Alec Baldwin than Jon Baldwin.

Casshole only threw it to him twice. He was open alot though. Saw it live, pissed me off a bit. I don't expect a gunslinger, but why can't he air it out a few times and let Baldwin be the TC monster.

Black Bob · 08-20-2012, 11:58 AM

I haven't got to watch the game yet. I will watch it tonight. I keep hearing a bunch of gloom and doom around here but I doubt it's that bad. I watched the Rams play Indy and KC play Arizona last week.

I felt like the Rams showed nothing in their game and Indy showed alot. I felt like KC showed alot and blitzed early and often. I am betting they flip flopped this week. I have a feeling KC was very vanilla and St. Louis opened the playbook.

Frosty · 08-20-2012, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Barret

What is more disturbing is who is at the 48 yard line and wide open?

Pretty sure that's Draughn.

Pasta Little Brioni · 08-20-2012, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Works well for Brady.

Cassel isn't Rodgers. He's never going to be a gunslinger. Plus, KC doesn't have that vertical threat yet. Maybe when Bowe comes back it'll help open things downfield, but KC is probably going to be a take-what-you give offense with a strong running attack. People keep wanting to force the offense to be something it isn't/can't. We saw what happened when Haley tried that last year.

People should be happy to some degree that the first team offense has: (1) looked efficient, (2) moved the ball, (3) scored some points. Stop bitching that they aren't achieving 1-3 the way the Packers and Saints do it.

Frosty · 08-20-2012, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob

I felt like the Rams showed nothing in their game and Indy showed alot. I felt like KC showed alot and blitzed early and often. I am betting they flip flopped this week. I have a feeling KC was very vanilla and St. Louis opened the playbook.

The announcers kept talking about how embarrassed Fisher was last week and how he vowed they would look better, etc. It was pretty clear that the Rams came out to win the game and game planned while the Chiefs came out vanilla (for example, the Rams' d blitzed frequently while the Chiefs pretty much played straight up). Fisher complained about the Chiefs keeping some of their starters in all half at the halftime.

However, that doesn't excuse the starting DL getting blown off the line in the running game or the Rams' receivers running wide open.

As an aside, the Rams' preseason announcers are terrible. Listening to Marshall Faulk announce a game makes me want to stab my eardrums with a rusty butterknife.

08-18-2012, 08:32 PM
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Rasputin Tip of the hat LIV Champs Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: ks Casino cash: $-44579	I don't have a problem with short dink & dunk passes as long as we are moving the chains and end results is points on the scoreboard. If anything keep control of the ball & helps the defense rest up. I am also a fan of quick strikes downfield, but am most happy if what we do wins games. I think Baldwin is going be just fine. I also think he is an asset in blocking down field in the running game. We are going see big time catches and plays out of Baldwin. His career just hasn't gotten off to a great start, but IMO he is sure the hell going make a mark for himself and be a productive KC Chief WR just got to wait & see. __________________ "Those who don't believe in magic will never find it"
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08-20-2012, 08:02 AM	#503
Nightfyre MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Helena, MT Casino cash: $1298849	People don't want to force this offense into something it isn't. People want to take advantage of the weapons on the outside to stretch the field and allow dash and crash some space. If you took any top 15 qb and put him on this team, we are instant super bowl contenders. **** matt cassel for preventing this offense from being what it should be.
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08-20-2012, 09:15 AM	#505
Dante84 Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: ATX & OPKS Casino cash: $-2108004 VARSITY	I really don't see us utilizing our WR's to their full potential this season, for better or worse. (meaning - id rather have the ball and get short yards, than have 3 turnovers per game). Matt isn't good at throwing the long ball, or even the medium ball. I see us running and dink-dunking us all the live-long day - Which is fine, so long as it works. We keep the ball longer, we move the chains, and we have the strength to convert TD's in the redzone, now that we have a complete running game. Our bigger passing plays, 10+ yards, will go to Boss and TM. That means the defense we will see will be spread out and close to the line. In this case we will benefit from play action and pump and go routes. If Cassel can be accurate with those, then our offense will be sick. I just think it will be rare if/when we do that. __________________ ..
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08-20-2012, 11:58 AM	#507
Black Bob Veteran Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Mohawk Town Casino cash: $10004900	I haven't got to watch the game yet. I will watch it tonight. I keep hearing a bunch of gloom and doom around here but I doubt it's that bad. I watched the Rams play Indy and KC play Arizona last week. I felt like the Rams showed nothing in their game and Indy showed alot. I felt like KC showed alot and blitzed early and often. I am betting they flip flopped this week. I have a feeling KC was very vanilla and St. Louis opened the playbook.
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