Thoughts on Preseason Game #2

[petegz28]

No sense in waiting for this to end.

Break it down

[BossChief]

The gif is in post 744.

Eachus steps back right into Stanzis leg while he is halfway though his throwing motion.

Its why Stanzi didnt release the ball.

It was a heads up play.

If he lets that ball go, its a pick 6.

Sack > pick 6

[Nightfyre]

Bosschief, this is hilarious. Stanzi pulled the ball down before the fullback got tangled up with him. Just let it go, man. So he had a bad game, which did look worse than it was. He will have more opportunities.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Bosschief, this is hilarious. Stanzi pulled the ball down before the fullback got tangled up with him. Just let it go, man. So he had a bad game, which did look worse than it was. He will have more opportunities.

He pulled it down because a DE was flying in his face, choking the passing lane.

Stanzi did nothing wrong on that play whatsoever.

[MagicHef]

Originally Posted by BossChief

How many times have you seen REAL REFS not call a blatant face mask penalty that happens to the quarterback?

FFS the guy has BOTH HANDS holding onto Stanzis facemask.

Probably 5 or so times last season with Tebow.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

Probably 5 or so times last season with Tebow.

I said QUARTERBACK.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

He pulled it down because a DE was flying in his face, choking the passing lane.

Stanzi did nothing wrong on that play whatsoever.

I didn't know you went to Iowa.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by BlackBob

That's a good thing but, sometimes players don't translate to NFL. Like I said above, Leonard Pope was really good at UGA. There are alot of people that say Hershal Walker was the best college player ever and he wasn't as good in the pros.

I agree. What I'm saying is Stanzi comes from a pro offense and does have a history of what I told you. All I'm saying is it's too soon to discard him as one who'll never make it.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

He pulled it down because a DE was flying in his face, choking the passing lane.

Stanzi did nothing wrong on that play whatsoever.

I agree that he was right to pull it down there - because the end closed the throwing lane. I also think Stanzi is getting a bad wrap for getting chased around by defensive linemen all game. He did go all Steve Bono on us with his happy feet, though. It's to be expected given that he is a young developing player. But Bosschief is reaching on a lot of his excuses and frankly, it's desperate. Stanzi will have more opportunities and he certainly won't be cut like many of the chicken littles around here cluck.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by BossChief

I didn't know you went to Iowa.

I only work in outer space.

[Black Bob]

Originally Posted by BossChief

I said QUARTERBACK.

With all do respect, Stanzi couldn't wash Tebow's jock strap for him. Stanzi hasn't done jack shit and Tebow has done quite a bit in very few games. It's about winning games.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

I agree that he was right to pull it down there - because the end closed the throwing lane. I also think Stanzi is getting a bad wrap for getting chased around by defensive linemen all game. He did go all Steve Bono on us with his happy feet, though. It's to be expected given that he is a young developing player. But Bosschief is reaching on a lot of his excuses and frankly, it's desperate. Stanzi will have more opportunities and he certainly won't be cut like many of the chicken littles around here cluck.

Let me give you a little backround.

I have been a Chiefs fan since the day I found out what "football" was.

My uncle always preached that all the team needed to do was draft a quarterback and start from there...he and my stepdad both went to Iowa and thats part of the reason I moved here in the first place...the rest was for work. I grew up in so cal, in Ventura, Ca.

Ive watched year after year as the Chiefs have traded/signed other teams trash quarterbacks that looked good for a game or two playing for some of the most elite teams of the last 30 years.

Bono
Grbac
Green (doesnt deserve to be in this category because of his defense, but thems the breaks)

and now Cassel.

None of these moves have worked.

Ive faithfully watched the Hawkeyes and know people that work for the athletic department of the school (and still know one of the guys that was very very high up the pecking order, but he is retired) and have family members that went there.

I have followed them the last 15 years or so.

Stanzi wasnt supposed to be shit when he got to Iowa City...we had a high recruit quarterback that was supposed to be THE GUY and Stanzi beat him for the job in an open competition.

Stanzi was never perfect, but he had something about him at Iowa that made him will the team to win games.

What sold me was the game against Indiana his first year...he had a rough start...made a couple dumb mistakes early in the game that put us behind.

We were down like 3 scores and Stanzi had a moment on the sideline during the 4th quarter where he basically took over the team right then and there.

Id have to go look it up to be precise on the details, but iirc he threw 4 touchdown passes in the last like 10 or 11 minutes of the game and won the game.

He was JUST LIKE Brett Favre the next two years (albeit no rocket arm, but still a strong one.) Highs and lows but a lot of wins and not many losses.

He would make some mistakes (half of his college picks were in the first quarter of games) and lead the team to the win nearly every time from seemingly behind.

The offense was a run first one, but Stanzi made a lot of really good plays when we needed them and that gave us a balanced offense that was fun to watch.

This is all happening when I get to watch Iowa kick ass on Saturday and then followed the next day by watching Cassel shit his pants for KC.

When we drafted Stanzi, it is was like a match made in heaven.

I knew the kid would have a chance if he went to a team with some talent so he wouldnt need to be a guy throwing the ball 50 times a game to stay in it and we were exactly that...but maybe a year or two off due to age of the key players.

Both games this preseason, I think the kid has gotten a raw deal.

I think the guy has made some heads up plays that the play result was poor and that he has unfairly taken the blame.

To be honest, I think the coaching staff still might see Stanzi in the picture for the #2 role...dependent on his play in the next two preseason games.

It sure would be nice to have this ****ing team FINALLY give the draft pick a chance to play over the vet backup they signed...but if they dont, it will be nothing new. IMO if the battle is a close one after game 4, the tie should go to the younger player that is under contract for longer.

C'est la vie as a Chiefs fan, I guess.

This one would hurt a little worse than other examples because he was a Hawkeye, but not by as much as some here think.

I still think Stanzi has a chance when a lot of you guys (not saying that part to you, directly) have written the kid off after last game.

Time will tell which side is wrong.

[Black Bob]

Originally Posted by BossChief

God damn, you are completely football stupid.

A quarterback cant see the flag being thrown because he isnt looking for that.

His facemask was grabbed so tightly that his whole head turned more than 90 degrees...that should be called 100% of the time.

Dont give me anymore football stupid takes like "the refs arent watching backup linemen"....THE ONE PERSON THEY SHOULD ALWAYS BE WATCHING IS THE ****ING QUARTERBACK FFS.

Now, go find a tall building and please, go to the top and dive headfirst into a rusty thumbtack.

Alright man, I will quit arguing with you tonight. What I said was right. Cheating is part of sports and you can't blame it on the refs. It is what it is. If you are to the point that you are defnding a player by blaming it on the refs, you have officially lost it imo. Go have a beer man.

[Black Bob]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Let me give you a little backround.

I have been a Chiefs fan since the day I found out what "football" was.

My uncle always preached that all the team needed to do was draft a quarterback and start from there...he and my stepdad both went to Iowa and thats part of the reason I moved here in the first place...the rest was for work. I grew up in so cal, in Ventura, Ca.

Ive watched year after year as the Chiefs have traded/signed other teams trash quarterbacks that looked good for a game or two playing for some of the most elite teams of the last 30 years.

Bono
Grbac
Green (doesnt deserve to be in this category because of his defense, but thems the breaks)

and now Cassel.

None of these moves have worked.

Ive faithfully watched the Hawkeyes and know people that work for the athletic department of the school (and still know one of the guys that was very very high up the pecking order, but he is retired) and have family members that went there.

I have followed them the last 15 years or so.

Stanzi wasnt supposed to be shit when he got to Iowa City...we had a high recruit quarterback that was supposed to be THE GUY and Stanzi beat him for the job in an open competition.

Stanzi was never perfect, but he had something about him at Iowa that made him will the team to win games.

What sold me was the game against Indiana his first year...he had a rough start...made a couple dumb mistakes early in the game that put us behind.

We were down like 3 scores and Stanzi had a moment on the sideline during the 4th quarter where he basically took over the team right then and there.

Id have to go look it up to be precise on the details, but iirc he threw 4 touchdown passes in the last like 10 or 11 minutes of the game and won the game.

He was JUST LIKE Brett Favre the next two years (albeit no rocket arm, but still a strong one.) Highs and lows but a lot of wins and not many losses.

He would make some mistakes (half of his college picks were in the first quarter of games) and lead the team to the win nearly every time from seemingly behind.

The offense was a run first one, but Stanzi made a lot of really good plays when we needed them and that gave us a balanced offense that was fun to watch.

This is all happening when I get to watch Iowa kick ass on Saturday and then followed the next day by watching Cassel shit his pants for KC.

When we drafted Stanzi, it is was like a match made in heaven.

I knew the kid would have a chance if he went to a team with some talent so he wouldnt need to be a guy throwing the ball 50 times a game to stay in it and we were exactly that...but maybe a year or two off due to age of the key players.

Both games this preseason, I think the kid has gotten a raw deal.

I think the guy has made some heads up plays that the play result was poor and that he has unfairly taken the blame.

To be honest, I think the coaching staff still might see Stanzi in the picture for the #2 role...dependent on his play in the next two preseason games.

It sure would be nice to have this ****ing team FINALLY give the draft pick a chance to play over the vet backup they signed...but if they dont, it will be nothing new. IMO if the battle is a close one after game 4, the tie should go to the younger player that is under contract for longer.

C'est la vie as a Chiefs fan, I guess.

This one would hurt a little worse than other examples because he was a Hawkeye, but not by as much as some here think.

I still think Stanzi has a chance when a lot of you guys (not saying that part to you, directly) have written the kid off after last game.

Time will tell which side is wrong.

I hate to tell you this man but he was a 5th round pick and he looks like one. David Green, former UGA QB, was awesome. He came from behind in a ton of games too. He was the SEC's all time passer. We won SEC Championships with the guy. We were one dropped pass at Florida away from a shot at the national championship. He was drafted in the 3rd round by the Seahawks. He later moved to Indy. He is out of the league and never did shit.

At UGA, Mathew Stafford didn't do half the things that David Green did. We were even ranked #1 with Stafford as our QB one year. Stafford had all the tools and Green did not.

It's the same thing with Stanzi. Stanzi is another David Green. If he had the perfect throwing motion, arm, brain, and will to win, he would have been a first round pick. He doesn't have it man and he looks like a 5th round pick. It's funny the way it works. It's a different game out there.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Let me give you a little backround.

I have been a Chiefs fan since the day I found out what "football" was.

My uncle always preached that all the team needed to do was draft a quarterback and start from there...he and my stepdad both went to Iowa and thats part of the reason I moved here in the first place...the rest was for work. I grew up in so cal, in Ventura, Ca.

Ive watched year after year as the Chiefs have traded/signed other teams trash quarterbacks that looked good for a game or two playing for some of the most elite teams of the last 30 years.

Bono
Grbac
Green (doesnt deserve to be in this category because of his defense, but thems the breaks)

and now Cassel.

None of these moves have worked.

Ive faithfully watched the Hawkeyes and know people that work for the athletic department of the school (and still know one of the guys that was very very high up the pecking order, but he is retired) and have family members that went there.

I have followed them the last 15 years or so.

Stanzi wasnt supposed to be shit when he got to Iowa City...we had a high recruit quarterback that was supposed to be THE GUY and Stanzi beat him for the job in an open competition.

Stanzi was never perfect, but he had something about him at Iowa that made him will the team to win games.

What sold me was the game against Indiana his first year...he had a rough start...made a couple dumb mistakes early in the game that put us behind.

We were down like 3 scores and Stanzi had a moment on the sideline during the 4th quarter where he basically took over the team right then and there.

Id have to go look it up to be precise on the details, but iirc he threw 4 touchdown passes in the last like 10 or 11 minutes of the game and won the game.

He was JUST LIKE Brett Favre the next two years (albeit no rocket arm, but still a strong one.) Highs and lows but a lot of wins and not many losses.

He would make some mistakes (half of his college picks were in the first quarter of games) and lead the team to the win nearly every time from seemingly behind.

The offense was a run first one, but Stanzi made a lot of really good plays when we needed them and that gave us a balanced offense that was fun to watch.

This is all happening when I get to watch Iowa kick ass on Saturday and then followed the next day by watching Cassel shit his pants for KC.

When we drafted Stanzi, it is was like a match made in heaven.

I knew the kid would have a chance if he went to a team with some talent so he wouldnt need to be a guy throwing the ball 50 times a game to stay in it and we were exactly that...but maybe a year or two off due to age of the key players.

Both games this preseason, I think the kid has gotten a raw deal.

I think the guy has made some heads up plays that the play result was poor and that he has unfairly taken the blame.

To be honest, I think the coaching staff still might see Stanzi in the picture for the #2 role...dependent on his play in the next two preseason games.

It sure would be nice to have this ****ing team FINALLY give the draft pick a chance to play over the vet backup they signed...but if they dont, it will be nothing new. IMO if the battle is a close one after game 4, the tie should go to the younger player that is under contract for longer.

C'est la vie as a Chiefs fan, I guess.

This one would hurt a little worse than other examples because he was a Hawkeye, but not by as much as some here think.

I still think Stanzi has a chance when a lot of you guys (not saying that part to you, directly) have written the kid off after last game.

Time will tell which side is wrong.

Well done, sir! Well done!

[Black Bob]

He's David Green

Greene played quarterback at the University of Georgia in college. He began his career as a redshirt freshman in 2001, being named the starter before the season. His most notable freshman game occurred at #5 Tennessee, known as the "hobnail boot" game. This phrase was coined by Georgia's famous play-by-play announcer Larry Munson. After Tennessee took the lead in the fourth quarter on a successful screen pass with :44 left, Greene led the Bulldogs back down the field with an inspiring series of quick passes. The winning touchdown pass went to fullback Verron Haynes in a now famous play known as "P-44 Haynes" or the "Hobnail Boot" play with just five seconds remaining on the clock. Upon Greene's completion to Haynes in the endzone for the winning touchdown, announcer Munson made this fateful call: "We just stepped on their face with a hobnail boot and broke their nose. We just crushed their face!"

This play marked the beginning of Greene's record-setting career at Georgia, highlighted by guiding the team to a Sugar Bowl victory in 2002. The same season he led the Bulldogs to their first SEC championship since 1982. He was named SEC Offensive Rookie of the Year after the 2001 season, and was the 2002 Offensive Player of the Year for The Southeastern Conference. In 2004, Greene made 214 consecutive pass attempts without an interception, a record that stood until broken by Andre Woodson from Kentucky in 2007.

At Georgia, one of Greene's roommates was friend and future Cincinnati Bengals defensive line David Pollack, who was drafted 17th in 2005. The two played football together when they were younger in Snellville, though they went to different high schools.

Greene finished his college career as the winningest quarterback in NCAA Division I history with 42 wins in four years, eclipsing the record previously held by Peyton Manning. However, on November 21, 2009, University of Texas quarterback Colt McCoy broke his record with a win over University of Kansas. Greene is the Southeastern Conference all-time career leader in yards gained with 11,270.[1]