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Old 10-26-2012, 12:54 PM   #1
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Actually, shoot enough test and your dick will get bigger. This was even verified by Jose Conseco's wife in his book and I dunno, about a billion other dudes on the planet that have run heavy cycles. Which is why I laugh when uneducated mental midgets say shit like "steroids shrink your dick!"

Actually, it's your balls. And you don't really need your balls if you don't plan on having kids anymore. So for those people it just means a bigger dong, stronger libido, more muscle mass and strength, and less bodyfat. So pretty much, it just makes you more awesome.
Guy I know at the bar just had testosterone implants injected into his butt cheek. Is that the same kind of testosterone you are talking about here?
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Old 10-26-2012, 01:24 PM   #2
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Guy I know at the bar just had testosterone implants injected into his butt cheek. Is that the same kind of testosterone you are talking about here?
wtf?
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Old 10-26-2012, 05:10 PM   #3
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wtf?
I hadn't heard of it either. Guy I see at happy hour fairly regularly; our kids go to the same school. Commercial real estate developer; successful dude. Over general drunk talk at the bar a couple months ago he mentioned he had low testosterone and was having these time release testosterone pellets shot into his ass. Saw him again last week, he said he was really happy with the procedure. Said he felt a lot more energy and had lead in his pencil again.
I called bullshit. We looked it up on my phone, sure enough there it is still in my search history. Stuff is called testopel.

Now I hear talk of testosterone here, second time in a week I've heard people talking about it. Just wondering it's the same substance, just administered differently or if the weight lifters use something else.
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Old 10-26-2012, 05:43 PM   #4
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I hadn't heard of it either. Guy I see at happy hour fairly regularly; our kids go to the same school. Commercial real estate developer; successful dude. Over general drunk talk at the bar a couple months ago he mentioned he had low testosterone and was having these time release testosterone pellets shot into his ass. Saw him again last week, he said he was really happy with the procedure. Said he felt a lot more energy and had lead in his pencil again.
I called bullshit. We looked it up on my phone, sure enough there it is still in my search history. Stuff is called testopel.

Now I hear talk of testosterone here, second time in a week I've heard people talking about it. Just wondering it's the same substance, just administered differently or if the weight lifters use something else.
It's the rage, now. I also know two different local dudes who committed suicide after getting on the shit. People are having kids later. Their kids get in high school/college and they start wanting to become "hip" again because they have more time on their hands to go out and hang with their wives, only they're nearing 50 years old. So they start getting testosterone in order to recapture their youth. While it may work for some, the results aren't always good.
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Old 10-26-2012, 05:52 PM   #5
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It's the rage, now. I also know two different local dudes who committed suicide after getting on the shit. People are having kids later. Their kids get in high school/college and they start wanting to become "hip" again because they have more time on their hands to go out and hang with their wives, only they're nearing 50 years old. So they start getting testosterone in order to recapture their youth. While it may work for some, the results aren't always good.
You know two guys that committed suicide and it was caused by testosterone? I'm skeptical that the testosterone would have been the cause.
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You know two guys that committed suicide and it was caused by testosterone? I'm skeptical that the testosterone would have been the cause.
Not saying it was the sole cause, but both wives have reported that their husbands had recently started testosterone therapy a year or so prior to the suicide. That being said, they may have started the therapy due to an underlying depression. Correlation doesn't equate causation, and I'm aware of that.

I'm still skeptical, but I tend to be skeptical about most things. If it's too good to be true, then it likely is.
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Not saying it was the sole cause, but both wives have reported that their husbands had recently started testosterone therapy a year or so prior to the suicide. That being said, they may have started the therapy due to an underlying depression. Correlation doesn't equate causation, and I'm aware of that.

I'm still skeptical, but I tend to be skeptical about most things. If it's too good to be true, then it likely is.
I don't know what they were doing exactly, but I suppose I can see if they weren't being treated properly how that might happen. Some docs don't prescribe it to have a nice even level in your system, but rather highs and lows for example 100mg every 2 weeks is bad IMO. If the levels were on the decline after being high then I suppose how I can see it might be related. Going from 800 to 150 and back up and down isn't good.
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Old 10-30-2012, 11:34 AM   #8
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Not saying it was the sole cause, but both wives have reported that their husbands had recently started testosterone therapy a year or so prior to the suicide. That being said, they may have started the therapy due to an underlying depression. Correlation doesn't equate causation, and I'm aware of that.

I'm still skeptical, but I tend to be skeptical about most things. If it's too good to be true, then it likely is.
I'd say that test actually made me much HAPPIER...and I was using dosages that far exceeded the tiny doses used in HRT
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It's the rage, now. I also know two different local dudes who committed suicide after getting on the shit. People are having kids later. Their kids get in high school/college and they start wanting to become "hip" again because they have more time on their hands to go out and hang with their wives, only they're nearing 50 years old. So they start getting testosterone in order to recapture their youth. While it may work for some, the results aren't always good.
No one kills themselves because of test. Jesus. As noted, there was probably some underlying depression but the amount of test these guys get on HRT is just enough to bring it to normal levels. I mean, I know guys shooting 3+ grams of test a week. Far as I know they are still alive.
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No one kills themselves because of test. Jesus. As noted, there was probably some underlying depression but the amount of test these guys get on HRT is just enough to bring it to normal levels. I mean, I know guys shooting 3+ grams of test a week. Far as I know they are still alive.
Your anecdotal evidence of "I know a guy" doesn't outweight my "I know a guy." Much like with marijuana, I'm skeptical. I support legalization, but I don't see pot as some kind of cure-all that's going to solve all our problems like many of its fervent advocates preach. I also think that test has legitimate benefits for some people, but I don't think it's some kind of cure all for middle-aged men to feel like studs into their 70s like many of the test advocates preach.
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Your anecdotal evidence of "I know a guy" doesn't outweight my "I know a guy." Much like with marijuana, I'm skeptical. I support legalization, but I don't see pot as some kind of cure-all that's going to solve all our problems like many of its fervent advocates preach. I also think that test has legitimate benefits for some people, but I don't think it's some kind of cure all for middle-aged men to feel like studs into their 70s like many of the test advocates preach.
If they are low it will.

And I have like decade after decade of research to back my stance up actually. Those men killed themselves probably due to other reasons. I'm not sure how putting a hormone in your body that already exists, to a normal amount, would make you suicidal. Again, there had to be other underlying issues.

Agree totally on the marijuana part. Total for legalizing it, but mainly for the economy. Not because I think it has all these wonderful properties about it.
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No one kills themselves because of test. Jesus. As noted, there was probably some underlying depression but the amount of test these guys get on HRT is just enough to bring it to normal levels. I mean, I know guys shooting 3+ grams of test a week. Far as I know they are still alive.
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I hadn't heard of it either. Guy I see at happy hour fairly regularly; our kids go to the same school. Commercial real estate developer; successful dude. Over general drunk talk at the bar a couple months ago he mentioned he had low testosterone and was having these time release testosterone pellets shot into his ass. Saw him again last week, he said he was really happy with the procedure. Said he felt a lot more energy and had lead in his pencil again.
I called bullshit. We looked it up on my phone, sure enough there it is still in my search history. Stuff is called testopel.

Now I hear talk of testosterone here, second time in a week I've heard people talking about it. Just wondering it's the same substance, just administered differently or if the weight lifters use something else.
They have that same stuff for cattle and it's been used for years. Synovex H has testosterone propionate and Finaplix has trenbolone acetate. FYI, both types of pellets can be broken down and processed into human consumable steroids.
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Guy I know at the bar just had testosterone implants injected into his butt cheek. Is that the same kind of testosterone you are talking about here?
What kind of bars do you hang out in?
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