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Old 10-30-2012, 11:36 AM  
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I'm late but on board with cleaning house
i've been hesitant because if you clean house you almost always have to wait again for another 2/3 years.

Romeo is just terrible, Daboll sucks too

If we have to change Head coaches again then Pioli has to go too.

it's a shame, but necessary

I still think Pioli is a quality player personal guy

Have no idea if anyone worth a shit is out there.

How good would we be if we had gotten Jim Harbaugh?

carry on with all your crazy conspiracy shit
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Old 10-30-2012, 03:22 PM   #76
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This team isn't that far away. They need quality coaching and a franchise QB. But our GM doesn't deserve the chance to do that, nor is he ever going to get a quality coach without a huge stroke of luck.
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The oldest players on the team are 30. There aren't that many players that would fit the "quality but aging" profile. Most of the 30 year olds blow (Cassel, Lilja, Elam).
I think the main issues concerning this team are coaching and poor front office decisions in regards to personnel grouping. The fact that Matt Cassel has been given free reign as QB without so much as any competition for the past four years is absolutely inexcusable!
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Old 10-30-2012, 03:24 PM   #77
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And I think Cleveland is a quicker fix.

Weedon, Richardson and Gordon over ?, Charles and ?
Chiefs play in an easier division and I also don't think Weeden is that good. He's also almost 30.
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Old 10-30-2012, 03:26 PM   #78
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Cowher has ties to Cleveland and Carolina as well and he was only in KC for the 1989-1991 seasons. That was a long, long time ago.

I just can't imagine Cowher in KC. I guess we'll all know soon enough.
Cleveland is not a desirable spot, IMO. Weeden is too old to gamble on for a guy like Cowher. Similarly, Cam is showing all sorts of red flags.

SD is obviously a better landing spot in terms of climate, city, etc., but the fan base is a joke, the team may or may not move, and Rivers has regressed severely.

KC is not bereft of talent, but the front office incompetence is turning everything else into a cluster****; far worse than it would be otherwise.

New GM, HC, and QB will solve a lot of problems just because of a true "change in culture." The team simply must get rid of the Mickey Moose bullshit.
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Old 10-30-2012, 03:27 PM   #79
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Old 10-30-2012, 03:29 PM   #80
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He should, His track record of QB's is ****ing pathetic.... Shit his QB's outside of rape boy were atrocious and Cassel like...

I really hope he stays in the studio or goes somewhere else.
He's the perfect HC then because this town has only had 2 decent QB's in 30 years and Cowher's been able to win playoff games without one...
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Similarly, Cam is showing all sorts of red flags.
It also appears that the ownership in Carolina is doing everything they can for Cam, much like Tennessee did for Vince Young. An experienced coach may not want that albatross around their neck.
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I see I'm not alone here.
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Cleveland is not a desirable spot, IMO. Weeden is too old to gamble on for a guy like Cowher. Similarly, Cam is showing all sorts of red flags.
I would counter that both Cleveland and Carolina will be choosing Top Five in the draft and therefore any new GM/Coach combo could move on from the incumbents rather easily.

Cleveland has a built-in audience, a solid offensive line, and two burgeoning stars in Richardson and Gordon. They're not that far away from competing, especially since the Bengals and Ravens can never seem to get over the hump.

As for Carolina, they have running backs to trade as well as Newton. It could potentially be a clean slate for the newcomers with a solid defense in place and a division undergoing transformation.

As for San Diego, what could be better than living in San Diego, having both offensive and defensive talent with the possibility of moving to one of the hottest spots in the country in Los Angeles?
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I wonder if Cleveland being in the same division as the Steelers would be a plus or a minus for Cowher? He seems proud of his Steelers legacy, so I don't know if he would want to be "the enemy" to the Steeler faithful.
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I wonder if Cleveland being in the same division as the Steelers would be a plus or a minus for Cowher? He seems proud of his Steelers legacy, so I don't know if he would want to be "the enemy" to the Steeler faithful.
That's a good point.
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Cleveland is not a desirable spot, IMO. Weeden is too old to gamble on for a guy like Cowher. Similarly, Cam is showing all sorts of red flags.

SD is obviously a better landing spot in terms of climate, city, etc., but the fan base is a joke, the team may or may not move, and Rivers has regressed severely.

KC is not bereft of talent, but the front office incompetence is turning everything else into a cluster****; far worse than it would be otherwise.

New GM, HC, and QB will solve a lot of problems just because of a true "change in culture." The team simply must get rid of the Mickey Moose bullshit.
Why is Cleveland an undesirable spot? Their defense is ascending, they have a terrific running game and great offensive line. They're just a maturing QB and 1-2 WRs away from being serious contenders.

Plus, they're going to be run by Joe Banner, who knows a thing or two about football. Then again, I bet that means Andy Reid is a favorite to go there.
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I would counter that both Cleveland and Carolina will be choosing Top Five in the draft and therefore any new GM/Coach combo could move on from the incumbents rather easily.

Cleveland has a built-in audience, a solid offensive line, and two burgeoning stars in Richardson and Gordon. They're not that far away from competing, especially since the Bengals and Ravens can never seem to get over the hump.

As for Carolina, they have running backs to trade as well as Newton. It could potentially be a clean slate for the newcomers with a solid defense in place and a division undergoing transformation.

As for San Diego, what could be better than living in San Diego, having both offensive and defensive talent with the possibility of moving to one of the hottest spots in the country in Los Angeles?
Ravens and Steelers are pretty big obstacles for Cleveland. While I like Richardson, I'm not banking on a RB.

Carolina would be fine, but many thought he might have already gone there if there was true interest on his part. Again, home isn't always the best landing spot for an NFL coach.

SD is OK, but I'm not impressed with their roster. Injured RB, sub-par WRs, regressing QB, OK defensive talent. Pretty "meh" in my view, but living in SD could be worse, for sure.

KC, has much potential on the roster, and the fan base/atmosphere is second-to-none when things are up and running. I honestly believe that a coach might look at KC's roster and think it's a QB away. That might be a bit optimistic in reality, but it's really not that far from true, either.
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I wonder if Cleveland being in the same division as the Steelers would be a plus or a minus for Cowher? He seems proud of his Steelers legacy, so I don't know if he would want to be "the enemy" to the Steeler faithful.
Like Marty coaching for the Chargers? Or Parcells coaching the Jets, Patriots and running the Dolphins?

Seriously, I don't think it matters. Cowher, IF he chooses to coach again, will go wherever he feels he has the best and quickest chance to win and win big.
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