Chiefs Dontari Poe... a bright spot in this terrible season? - Page 2

Buckweath · 10-30-2012, 02:57 PM

I thought he played good against the Raiders and decent overall the last few games. Sure, I would like him to give better push in the passing game but he's held his ground in the running game. Poe is on pace to record the exact same stats as Ngata in his rookie season.

Anyone has his PFF rating for the last game and overall this season?

And anyone thinks he's doing better than Dorsey and Jackson in their rookie season, not that it's hard to beat but well, he was supposed to be much more of a project than those two??

Brock · 10-30-2012, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Poe was a great pick because he is exactly the kind of ballsy pick Pioli has refused to make in 4 years. It just happened 4 years too late.

ballsy pick

MagicHef · 10-30-2012, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lou_Zare

this season

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Ace Gunner · 10-30-2012, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

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thx. about what i imagined.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-30-2012, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

ballsy pick

Picking a guy with a bad resume with a lower division school to play the most important position on your defense is a ballsy pick. It's one of the first moves Pioli made that didn't feel like a conservative pick.

And it's a great pick because Poe isn't a traditional nose tackle. He's a guy whose upside is to be the rare Vince Wilfork player who can play nose tackle well, but also has ability to play 3 downs because he can play across the line.

scho63 · 10-30-2012, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by loochy

That's like saying you found a clean spot after you crapped in your pants.

OH LORD I JUST PISSED MY PANTS LAUGHING!!!!

YOU SHARE MY HUMOUR!

**Rausch** · 10-30-2012, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Picking a guy with a bad resume with a lower division school to play the most important position on your defense is a ballsy pick.

So would me picking a fight with a 275 lb marine be ballsy?

Or just really ****ing stupid?...

Rasputin · 10-30-2012, 04:33 PM

I don't believe another GM was going to risk Poe in the first round. Just don't believe they would have. Also play Powe. We didn't need a high risk in Poe with having Powe who is stout and can plug the hole. Powe has power. He isn't getting the playing time but I think he should be getting plenty of it.

Don't tell me the coaches know what they are doing @ 1-6.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-30-2012, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

ballsy pick

Yeah, that was about as funny as calling him a "bright spot."

It wasn't that long ago that people here were calling Dorsey and Jackson Top 10 run defenders, and claimed they'd be even better with a solid NT in the middle.

KC's run defense ranking as of October 30, 2012?

23rd.

Yep. A real bright spot on this supposed Top 10 defense.

(which is currently ranked 29th overall)

A lot of folks here have completely overrated the level of talent on this roster. And some continue to do so.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-30-2012, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Yeah, that was about as funny as calling him a "bright spot."

It wasn't that long ago that people here were calling Dorsey and Jackson Top 10 run defenders, and claimed they'd be even better with a solid NT in the middle.

KC's run defense ranking as of October 30, 2012?

23rd.

Yep. A real bright spot on this supposed Top 10 defense.

(which is currently ranked 29th overall)

I wouldn't call him a bright spot. He has a long way to go. But he's not anything close to a bust yet. And his upside is tremendous.

It's a good pick. I hate Pioli's history of ultra-conservative picks that are safe. This is the one pick where Pioli finally decided to go after an important position and gamble on a guy who has boom/bust written all over him.

It's a damn shame he has been too stubborn to do the same at other positions, especially QB.

mcaj22 · 10-30-2012, 04:38 PM

better pick than Jon Baldwin that's for sure

chiefzilla1501 · 10-30-2012, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

So would me picking a fight with a 275 lb marine be ballsy?

Or just really ****ing stupid?...

What about this pick right now leads you to believe it's really ****ing stupid?

Poe has upside a lot of nose tackles don't have. It was a good pick. Clear boom / bust. He's either going to be a rare talent at nose tackle, or he's going to suck. That's exactly the kind of gamble you make on a nose tackle. I'd take that pick all day long over a 2-down guy like Cody, whose playing style is becoming obsolete in the NFL.

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-30-2012, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

A lot of folks here have completely overrated the level of talent on this roster. And some continue to do so.

It wasn't just us here. The media thought highly of it, as well.

The roster could certainly use some help, but it's better than you think.

The shit coaching staff we have doesn't help.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-30-2012, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

It wasn't just us here. The media thought highly of it, as well.

The roster could certainly use some help, but it's better than you think.

The shit coaching staff we have doesn't help.

The media thought highly of it simply because they think highly of Scott Pioli.

Well, at least they did before this season.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-30-2012, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

The media thought highly of it simply because they think highly of Scott Pioli.

Well, at least they did before this season.

No, the media thought highly of it because they somehow didn't realize Romeo would wreck this team this soon.

This team even with a bad QB and good coaching is a fringe playoff team. We would likely be a playoff team in a bad division. That's not good enough. But if we played as hard as we did in the second half of last year, and you add in Charles, Hillis, Moeaki, Winston, and Berry, we should be a hell of a lot better. This team is better than critics suggest. But then again... even with great coaching, this team isn't anything more than a 1-and-done playoff team until they get a real QB, so I'm happy with the way things are going.

**ShortRoundChief** · 10-30-2012, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

What about this pick right now leads you to believe it's really ****ing stupid?

Poe has upside a lot of nose tackles don't have. It was a good pick. Clear boom / bust. He's either going to be a rare talent at nose tackle, or he's going to suck. That's exactly the kind of gamble you make on a nose tackle. I'd take that pick all day long over a 2-down guy like Cody, whose playing style is becoming obsolete in the NFL.

It was a ballsy pick for sure. One approach I wish they'd have made with a quarterback.

10-30-2012, 02:57 PM
Buckweath Veteran Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Quebec, Canada Casino cash: $9994975	Dontari Poe... a bright spot in this terrible season? I thought he played good against the Raiders and decent overall the last few games. Sure, I would like him to give better push in the passing game but he's held his ground in the running game. Poe is on pace to record the exact same stats as Ngata in his rookie season. Anyone has his PFF rating for the last game and overall this season? And anyone thinks he's doing better than Dorsey and Jackson in their rookie season, not that it's hard to beat but well, he was supposed to be much more of a project than those two??
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Rasputin Tip of the hat LIV Champs Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: ks Casino cash: $15421	I don't believe another GM was going to risk Poe in the first round. Just don't believe they would have. Also play Powe. We didn't need a high risk in Poe with having Powe who is stout and can plug the hole. Powe has power. He isn't getting the playing time but I think he should be getting plenty of it. Don't tell me the coaches know what they are doing @ 1-6. __________________ "Those who don't believe in magic will never find it"
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mcaj22 MVP Join Date: Feb 2010 Casino cash: $10014454	better pick than Jon Baldwin that's for sure
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