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Old 10-30-2012, 05:18 PM   #1
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It's bullshit. We can survive with Routt. We can survive with the entire defense. We can survive with the offense, with one exception: a quarterback that was at the top of his position. Because those guys lift the entire team. Ours has dragged it down. Turnovers killed the season.

It's a hard pill to swallow, and I'm sure it's a newsflash to a town that's lived with the martyocre way of doing things for 20 years, but you don't have to have superstars everywhere. You just have to have one. And he has to be behind center. Do you want more? **** yeah you do. You want that game-changing passrusher. You want guys on offense that can break plays. But you rise and fall in today's NFL with the quarterback. You can have 'guy's literally everywhere else. You just can't have one running the offense. Because no matter who else you have, if you don't have a quarterback, you're ****ed. Just ****ed.

Unfortunately, we don't even have a 'guy' under center.
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:21 PM   #2
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It's bullshit. We can survive with Routt.


You know what a guy like Stanford Routt does on a good team?

He gets you beat in the first round of the playoffs.

And sorry, but we can't survive with this DL. It's horrible.
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:25 PM   #3
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You know what a guy like Stanford Routt does on a good team?

He gets you beat in the first round of the playoffs.

And sorry, but we can't survive with this DL. It's horrible.
There are tons of successful playoff teams in the last five years that have done it with banged-up or just plain bad secondaries, as well as bad defenses.

They had quarterbacks that could carry them.

We don't. Obviously.

You guys are getting too hung up on positions that are of...secondary importance. Pun intended.

They could have Deion out there, it wouldn't matter this year. Cassel would find a way.

**** all this talk about Carr or whoever else. Get us a ****ing quarterback already.
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:28 PM   #4
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There are tons of successful playoff teams in the last five years that have done it with banged-up or just plain bad secondaries, as well as bad defenses.

They had quarterbacks that could carry them.

We don't. Obviously.

You guys are getting too hung up on positions that are of...secondary importance. Pun intended.

They could have Deion out there, it wouldn't matter this year. Cassel would find a way.
Exactly. We saw how horrible Indy was without Peyton. Brady led Reche ****ing Caldwell and Chad Jackson to an AFC Championship game behind an average defense. Rodgers and Brees have won games with an average defense and a gazillion injuries to their offense.

This is a solid football team outside of the QB position.
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:33 PM   #5
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This is a solid football team outside of the QB position.
I don't want solid. I want elite.

This team isn't good enough to win a SB, even with Brady.

Brady would be screaming his ****ing head off at Jon Baldwin and demanding better receivers.
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:35 PM   #6
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I don't want solid. I want elite.

This team isn't good enough to win a SB, even with Brady.

Brady would be screaming his ****ing head off at Jon Baldwin and demanding better receivers.
You've been on point a fair amount lately, but this is laugable. Don't you recall the WR corp that Brady has won SB's with? Bowe, Breaston, Baldwin and yes even McCluster are better than any of those as a group.
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:36 PM   #7
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I don't want solid. I want elite.

This team isn't good enough to win a SB, even with Brady.

Brady would be screaming his ****ing head off at Jon Baldwin and demanding better receivers.
That's a fair statement, but I would argue a lot of these players turn from solid to very good with a coaching / QB change.

The good news is that the next GM gets a team with a solid foundation and a nice cap to work with. I don't think it takes long at all for a GM to turn this team into a deep playoff contender. I think that GM could do it in one offseason.
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