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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I just don't buy the board on here in a panic that our team is so bad we need an overhaul.

We don't need an overhaul.

But we need 7 or 8 new starters for sure. Plus depth.

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

We don't need an overhaul.

But we need 7 or 8 new starters for sure. Plus depth.

Easily correct taking into account the O and D lines, plus secondary.

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

We don't need an overhaul.

But we need 7 or 8 new starters for sure. Plus depth.

That's an exaggeration. We need an overhaul of our coaching staff. We need a new QB. Those things alone make this team a very good football team.

We always act like we should have 22 very good starters. It's just not typical in today's NFL. I"m not going to get riled up if we're missing a guard or a free safety. We have more than enough talent at the key positions to support a very good head coach and QB. Putting Jim Harbaugh's staff (OC + DC) alone makes this team competitive. Replacing the QB on a Harbaugh coached team makes this team a contender. Chipping away at those 7 or 8 starters just makes the job easier.

You're really telling me that putting RGIII or even Tannehill and the entire 49ers Coaching staff alone doesn't make this team a serious contender?

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

You're really telling me that putting RGIII or even Tannehill and the entire 49ers Coaching staff alone doesn't make this team a serious contender?

I'm telling you that the players we've discussed in this thread have no business starting in the NFL on a perennial playoff team.

We are the Browns, Midwest.

So they start for us.

Remember when Eric Warfield went to New England? His ass didn't even make the final roster.

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

I'm telling you that the players we've discussed in this thread have no business starting in the NFL on a perennial playoff team.

We are the Browns, Midwest.

So they start for us.

Remember when Eric Warfield went to New England? His ass didn't even make the final roster.

There are lots of teams with that problem, even the good ones. The difference is that in the past, our starters weren't even worthy of a roster spot on an NFL Europe squad. Even our bad starters are fringe starters / quality backups. I think we're really getting nitpicky if we're going to get riled up about Guards and slot receivers and 5-techniques. And most of those guys aren't even terrible. They're just not very good.

I'm not saying we can't or shouldn't do better. I'm not defending the way Pioli built his team, because Moeaki should be Gronk or Graham. Baldwin should have been Dalton. The list goes on. But the team has improved dramatically and that will show with wholesale changes in the coaching staff and with an improved QB. Should it continue to improve? Of course. I'd expect nothing less. But we're not in some dire situation where a new GM can't make this a deep playoff contender with just a few effective offseason moves.

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

But we're not in some dire situation where a new GM can't make this a deep playoff contender with just a few effective offseason moves.

This I agree completely with.

But there is no way we can start a guy like Jon Baldwin next year, or Stanford Routt.

We can probably "get by" with Arenas at NCB or Jackson at LDE.

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

This I agree completely with.

But there is no way we can start a guy like Jon Baldwin next year, or Stanford Routt.

We can probably "get by" with Arenas at NCB or Jackson at LDE.

Now we're on the same page. Agree with this. Though I think Routt will be just fine if our front 5 starts to finally do their job consistently.