Who would Scott Pioli draft at #1?

[Hammock Parties]

Let's say hell freezes over and Pioli is our GM next April. Let's say hell also then melts and freezes over again and he decides to draft a QB with the #1 pick.

Who would he pick?

There is no question in my mind he'd take Barkley.

This is a worthwhile QB thread, thanks for participating.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

Yeah, you love McCluster despite the fact that he is the most drop-prone wide receiver in the NFL basically.

Arenas finally had a good game so you can trumpet that for a week until Andrew Hawkins is toasting his short, slow ass.

?? Are you confusing BossChief with Reerun_KC?

[RealSNR]

What about emu boy from NC State? He seems like the kind of midround QB that a Patriot ****er would take to add competition for the QB2 spot, while completely ignoring the enormous ****ing hole at the starter spot

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Really?

In 2011, for only 3 games with Kyle Orton as the starter we beat 2 playoff teams and should have won all three games.

I dont think we would have been blown out of any of our games thus far and would be anywhere from 4-5 to 7-2.

Not only that, we would have a young franchise quarterback developing and a very bright future.

Were you insinuating that would only be marginally a better situation?

Oh well, in th grand scheme of things...if we end up drafting Geno Smith we are better off that way.

Geno Smith + Dontari Poe > Ryan Tannehill and Teo.

I think Teo is another Kuechly or Aaron Curry.

Really? You give Orton credit for those wins? It was the defense that allowed us to win. Orton did not do any better than Cassel when it came to putting points on the board and as each week went on we scored progressively less. To give Orton any credit for our defense shutting down the GB offense or that 7-3 shootout against a Tebow led Broncos is the height of foolishness. Orton was good at moving the ball, that is it. He could not punch it in when it mattered, so no we would not be any better off with him at QB.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

I agree completely. I'm glad Pioli didn't sign Orton because we'd be stuck in mediocrity hell.

bullshit.

The mistake would have been going into the year with Orton and Cassel...not Orton/Stanzi and Tannehill.

Only making a move for Orton would have had us stuck in mediocrity,but that in no way should have been where they should have stopped in fixing our quarterback position.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by SNR

?? Are you confusing BossChief with Reerun_KC?

No, BossChief thinks Dexter is the shit and just needs a QB.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

Yeah, you love McCluster despite the fact that he is the most drop-prone wide receiver in the NFL basically.

Arenas finally had a good game so you can trumpet that for a week until Andrew Hawkins is toasting his short, slow ass.

I never said that I love Dexter...but I dont think he is anywhere near as bad as you try to portray him, either.

If we draft Geno Smith (a quarterback that is not only accurate, but can also stretch the field) players like Dexter become far more valuable because of what they can do in space with their acceleration.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by tredadda

Really? You give Orton credit for those wins? It was the defense that allowed us to win. Orton did not do any better than Cassel when it came to putting points on the board and as each week went on we scored progressively less. To give Orton any credit for our defense shutting down the GB offense or that 7-3 shootout against a Tebow led Broncos is the height of foolishness. Orton was good at moving the ball, that is it. He could not punch it in when it mattered, so no we would not be any better off with him at QB.

I don't know if you realize this but if you constantly leave your defense in bad situations via turnovers and leave them on the field the whole game because of your offensive ineptitude and inability to sustain drives (i.e. not going 3&out every drive ala Cassel) they will typically struggle.

By not leaving our defense on the field the whole ****ing game, they played better. Orton isn't the answer but he showed what even an average QB could do for this team.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

No, BossChief thinks Dexter is the shit and just needs a QB.

Thats not too far off, actually.

I don't think he is "the shit" but I do think he can be a very effective player in the right circumstances.

You will owe me an authentic Jersey because of him after this year and Im sure we will make another wager next year when Geno is gonna help the kid exploit matchups in space.

[Munson]

He'll draft a LT(if Albert leaves) or a 3-4 DE with zero pass rushing ability.

God help us if he isn't fired by the end of the season.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Sorter

I don't know if you realize this but if you constantly leave your defense in bad situations via turnovers and leave them on the field the whole game because of your offensive ineptitude and inability to sustain drives (i.e. not going 3&out every drive ala Cassel) they will typically struggle.

By not leaving our defense on the field the whole ****ing game, they played better. Orton isn't the answer but he showed what even an average QB could do for this team.

I knew someone would post truth and that I didnt need to.

there is a clear reason that the team played with more energy with Orton at QB and anyone that has played the game at a high, organized level knows that when you have a QB, you give max effort because you know that you dont want to be the reason the team lost.

With a guy like Cassel, you don't have much hope of actually winning games and that takes away your field energy.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Sorter

I don't know if you realize this but if you constantly leave your defense in bad situations via turnovers and leave them on the field the whole game because of your offensive ineptitude and inability to sustain drives (i.e. not going 3&out every drive ala Cassel) they will typically struggle.

By not leaving our defense on the field the whole ****ing game, they played better. Orton isn't the answer but he showed what even an average QB could do for this team.

Fair enough although I look forward to the day when the legend of Orton the mediocre QB dies in KC.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by BossChief

You will owe me an authentic Jersey because of him after this year

Not on your life.

He has 276 receiving yards in 9 games.

He's gonna need to average 46 yards a game the rest of the year for me to lose.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by BossChief

I never said that I love Dexter...but I dont think he is anywhere near as bad as you try to portray him, either.
.

He drops more passes than just about anyone, and turns the ball over a shit ton. And doesn't make big plays.

How much worse can he get?

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by tredadda

Fair enough although I look forward to the day when the legend of Orton the mediocre QB dies in KC.

I think most reasonable people know he is average and could have been a solid stop-gap at best.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by tredadda

Fair enough although I look forward to the day when the legend of Orton the mediocre QB dies in KC.

I dont think anyone here wanted to sign Orton as the end all be all.

But, he would have been an optimum backup and a damn good stop gap.

With Orton, the receiving corps could be properly evaluated as could the other members of the team and the teams talent wouldnt be losing confidence like this year has done.

Cassel has a way of sucking not only on the field, but sucking the energy of his teammates.

Its beyond laughable that the guy was championed as some kind of great leader that had great intangibles.

the guy tries to absorb undue praise and deflects criticism...when a real leader deflects praise to his teammates and accepts the blame for its failures.