Jovan Belcher was one sick son of B****

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by WV

Facts? Your getting your "facts" from newspaper articles and press releases.

Come on.

I'm not even trying to be argumentative here, but if you honestly believe that someone inside the Chiefs organization had some inkling that something like this would happen then good for you. The facts are that we will never know what actually went down because we weren't there.

I sincerely hope that you don't work in law enforcement, or any other field where deductive reasoning is required.

[WV]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I sincerely hope that you don't work in law enforcement, or any other field where deductive reasoning is required.

If you had some inside knowledge or even firsthand knowledge of this situation I may take your opinion for something. But the bottom line is that you're just some dude interpreting a situation on an internet message board like the rest of us.

Deductive reasoning would perhaps be valid if you were an investigator working the case and had all the facts, but you are not and don't.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by WV

If you had some inside knowledge or even firsthand knowledge of this situation I may take your opinion for something. But the bottom line is that you're just some dude interpreting a situation on an internet message board like the rest of us.

Deductive reasoning would perhaps be valid if you were an investigator working the case and had all the facts, but you are not and don't.

Yet, you're cool with calling me out.

That's just great.

[WV]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Yet, you're cool with calling me out.

That's just great.

Look I know it's all about you being right and all, but the only thing I'm calling you out on is that there is no way any of us have enough knowledge of the situation to extrapolate that anyone there knew Belcher was capable of his actions.

You're the one claiming to know what was going on inside Belcher's head.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by WV

Look I know it's all about you being right and all, but the only thing I'm calling you out on is that there is no way any of us have enough knowledge of the situation to extrapolate that anyone there knew Belcher was capable of his actions.

You're the one claiming to know what was going on inside Belcher's head.

What the **** is wrong with you?

Please link us to a quote in which I stated that anyone knew Belcher would snap.

It's like the reerun patrol in here tonight.

[WV]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I can't answer that question.

But according to recent reports, he and the club where aware of their issues, which is obviously why he, Gibbs and Crennel knew that they were in no danger when he stormed the gates on Saturday.

This may end far worse for Pioli and Crennel than anyone could have possibly imagined.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

And I think that you're speculating.

It's clear that he had problems and the Chiefs were aware of said problems.

You have absolutely no idea if the team psychologist warned Pioli or the organization that Belcher was on edge and ready to snap.

Pioli, Crennel and Gibbs calm collectively calm demeanor on Saturday while dealing with an armed man that admitted to murder tells me that that weren't shocked or stunned to hear that news.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You are assuming. I am not.

Pioli, Crennel and Gibbs were unafraid of a man holding a gun AFTER he confessed to murder.

That tells us that he wasn't on some muderous rampage. He wanted her dead to such a large degree that he didn't mind taking his own life as the endgame.

The dude was seriously jacked.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

What the **** is wrong with you?

Please link us to a quote in which I stated that anyone knew Belcher would snap.

It's like the reerun patrol in here tonight.

You have been acting all along like they knew the situation and then through deductive reasoning deduced that they were safe, but then weren't shocked that he killed someone. You've been acting like you knew the whole situation from the beginning of this thread and with your first statement injected blame on Pioli and Crennel. Like they should have known.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by WV

You have been acting all along like they knew the situation and then through deductive reasoning deduced that they were safe, but then weren't shocked that he killed someone. You've been acting like you knew the whole situation from the beginning of this thread and with your first statement injected blame on Pioli and Crennel. Like they should have known.

Dude, BELCHER TOLD PIOLI HE SHOT SOMEONE.

Pioli knew, yet still asked Crennel and Gibbs to come out and meet with Belcher.

Does that sound like the action of a man that feels threatened or in fear of losing his life?

[KCWolfman]

Originally Posted by WV

You have been acting all along like they knew the situation and then through deductive reasoning deduced that they were safe, but then weren't shocked that he killed someone. You've been acting like you knew the whole situation from the beginning of this thread and with your first statement injected blame on Pioli and Crennel. Like they should have known.

Yup, I see people making better fiction than any of Stephen King's last 10 novels.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by WV

You're the one claiming to know what was going on inside Belcher's head.

Please quote that claim. Thanks.