Chiefs Belcher was out with another woman the night before the murder - Page 7

Goldmember · 12-03-2012, 08:09 PM

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...igoogle_sports

According to a law enforcement official close to the investigation, Jovan Belcher was out "partying" the night before he shot Kasandra Perkins. He had been with a woman in the Power and Light District, an area of bars in downtown Kansas City, according to the official who is familiar with statements made by the woman to police.
Belcher and the woman had become separated at some point and he went to her apartment in a complex in Kansas City, but she wasn't there, the official said. According to two of the woman's neighbors, Belcher was intoxicated and they let him stay in their apartment so he could get some sleep.
Belcher asked them to wake him by 6:30 a.m. so he could attend a team meeting later that morning, the official said. "I'll get fined if I don't make it," Belcher told them.
The women woke Belcher and he went to Perkins' house about 6:30 a.m. or 7 a.m. She had come home earlier after a concert and being out in the Power and Light District also.
The couple then argued before Belcher killed Perkins and later killed himself.

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memyselfI · 12-04-2012, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Driving Wheel

I don't believe it. Seems like she got home at 1, and he was at P&L with this other broad. She (the other broad) prolly blew him off when he got shitty drunk. He went to go find her, and she wasn't home (prolly went to go be with HER other dude). Belcher sleeps it off in his car, wakes up and gets home around 7, when the fight ensued, and then we know the rest...

Just how I see it.

I'm sorry, if I'm staying at my son's house and he's out all night leaving me, GF, and baby at home then he's gettin it from me when he returns.

Maybe Mom isn't entirely remembering any fights between them because she may have been involved? That would make him super pissed off at three different women. Plus being late to his meeting and having to face whatever disciplinary actions that entailed if he had previously been late or showed up hangin.

memyselfI · 12-04-2012, 11:45 AM

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Sue me, I laughed.

Sorter · 12-04-2012, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI

Sue me, I laughed.

Drink bleach.

KCrockaholic · 12-04-2012, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

again it would be VERY possible. i explained how a couple posts ago

It could be possible, but from what we've been told he was 2 different places at 1AM. All scenarios might have happened, but the time in which they happened is pretty hazy.

memyselfI · 12-04-2012, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

The part I don't understand is how the police come upon Belcher sleeping in his car at 2AM or whatever. If a guy is sleeping in his car, likely the seats laid back. It would be very difficult to see him in his car in the middle of the night. And even if he was, why would the police want to wake him and, get all his information. It's not illegal to sleep in your car, and the weather was nice that night, the police wouldn't have been worried about his health from the cold. Something else happened during that time frame.

Sorry, but if they find a black man in a Bentley sleeping they are running the plates and asking for ID. At least in Leawood, PV, OP, Mission, Fairway. Heck around here, if you are black and driving anything nice and newer than 2005 you are getting pulled over and checked out.

Maybe it's different in Missouri. I think they ran the plates saw WHO it was and let him skate.

**SAUTO** · 12-04-2012, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

It could be possible, but from what we've been told he was 2 different places at 1AM. All scenarios might have happened, but the time in which they happened is pretty hazy.

no that hasnt happened.

he was in the p&l with another woman they got separated (we dont know when)

he was at home at 1 to fight then obviously left there.

cops found him "asleep" at 2

went to other girls house.

slept on neighbor's couch.

they woke him at 6:30
he went home and fought again and killed the GF.

makes perfect sense to me.

memyselfI · 12-04-2012, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

no that hasnt happened.

he was in the p&l with another woman they got separated (we dont know when)

he was at home at 1 to fight then obviously left there.

cops found him "asleep" at 2

went to other girls house.

slept on neighbor's couch.

they woke him at 6:30
he went home and fought again and killed the GF.

makes perfect sense to me.

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Early reports said Belcher flew into a rage after Perkins returned late from a Trey Songz concert at about 1 a.m.

But according to Glass and her neighbors, Belcher wasn’t even home then.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/nationa...=SFnewyorkpost

The fight must have been on the phone if he wasn't even home at 1 am.

**SAUTO** · 12-04-2012, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/nationa...=SFnewyorkpost

The fight must have been on the phone if he wasn't even home at 1 am.

i'm betting he got away for a little while and went to check on his girlfriend.

**SAUTO** · 12-04-2012, 12:47 PM

did glass and her neighbors know he was outside asleep in his car at 2:30?

memyselfI · 12-04-2012, 12:56 PM

I'm betting the police, the Mom, the friends, and who knows maybe the Chiefs did some factual photoshopping.

Why?

1. Police let go a guy because of who he was and he goes on to kill two people.

2. The mother doesn't want the fact that he was out with yet another woman known to the public. The fight at 1, if it happened at all, was over the phone possibly while Brittni Glass was there.

3. Kasi's friends want this to seem like this happened out of the blue and believe what the Mom told them about a fight at 1 am. Or maybe they honestly believed that she was happy with this man and they were not having significant problems.

htismaqe · 12-04-2012, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI

1. Police let go a guy because of who he was and he goes on to kill two people.

This is pure speculation and NOTHING more.

It's just as likely, since the police report said he was SLEEPING when they found him, that he was SOBER and therefore they had no probable cause to detain him.

htismaqe · 12-04-2012, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI

Sorry, but if they find a black man in a Bentley sleeping they are running the plates and asking for ID. At least in Leawood, PV, OP, Mission, Fairway. Heck around here, if you are black and driving anything nice and newer than 2005 you are getting pulled over and checked out.

Maybe it's different in Missouri. I think they ran the plates saw WHO it was and let him skate.

It's also ENTIRELY possible that he wasn't legally drunk so there was ZILCH they could legally do.

memyselfI · 12-04-2012, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

It's also ENTIRELY possible that he wasn't legally drunk so there was ZILCH they could legally do.

Wouldn't they have run a breatholizer test to determine that? Or once they found out who he was choose not to if he promised to go home and be a good boy?

Didn't the friends say he could sleep on their couch because he was drunk? Did he go get drunk after being discovered by police and before he went to the GF2 house?

**SAUTO** · 12-04-2012, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI

I'm betting the police, the Mom, the friends, and who knows maybe the Chiefs did some factual photoshopping.

Why?

1. Police let go a guy because of who he was and he goes on to kill two people.

2. The mother doesn't want the fact that he was out with yet another woman known to the public. The fight at 1, if it happened at all, was over the phone possibly while Brittni Glass was there.

3. Kasi's friends want this to seem like this happened out of the blue and believe what the Mom told them about a fight at 1 am. Or maybe they honestly believed that she was happy with this man and they were not having significant problems.

i'm betting that if he was a jealous controlling person he actually SAW her at that house.

**SAUTO** · 12-04-2012, 01:30 PM

he probably went home and STARTED a fight so he would have an excuse to storm out and go back to the other girls house.

12-03-2012, 08:09 PM
Goldmember You GOTTA get it done! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Northern California Casino cash: $9856738	Belcher was out with another woman the night before the murder http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...igoogle_sports According to a law enforcement official close to the investigation, Jovan Belcher was out "partying" the night before he shot Kasandra Perkins. He had been with a woman in the Power and Light District, an area of bars in downtown Kansas City, according to the official who is familiar with statements made by the woman to police. Belcher and the woman had become separated at some point and he went to her apartment in a complex in Kansas City, but she wasn't there, the official said. According to two of the woman's neighbors, Belcher was intoxicated and they let him stay in their apartment so he could get some sleep. Belcher asked them to wake him by 6:30 a.m. so he could attend a team meeting later that morning, the official said. "I'll get fined if I don't make it," Belcher told them. The women woke Belcher and he went to Perkins' house about 6:30 a.m. or 7 a.m. She had come home earlier after a concert and being out in the Power and Light District also. The couple then argued before Belcher killed Perkins and later killed himself. Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz2E2rDJu2U
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memyselfI CHANGEd your mind yet???? Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Lunatics Anonymous Casino cash: $10005234	I'm betting the police, the Mom, the friends, and who knows maybe the Chiefs did some factual photoshopping. Why? 1. Police let go a guy because of who he was and he goes on to kill two people. 2. The mother doesn't want the fact that he was out with yet another woman known to the public. The fight at 1, if it happened at all, was over the phone possibly while Brittni Glass was there. 3. Kasi's friends want this to seem like this happened out of the blue and believe what the Mom told them about a fight at 1 am. Or maybe they honestly believed that she was happy with this man and they were not having significant problems. __________________ Meet the new boss same as the old boss. BigChiefDave:"Anyone who thought we would only be in Iraq for a few years is either stoned or just stoopid." "It is unknowable how long that conflict will last. It could last 6 days, 6 wks. I doubt 6 mths." Rummy 2/7/03 Last edited by memyselfI; 12-04-2012 at 01:03 PM..
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