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Old 12-04-2012, 12:48 PM  
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New York Post NFL writer on Clark - "Didn’t strike me as the sharpest guy around."
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@ArrowheadPride He just didn’t strike me as the sharpest guy around. Seems kind of overmatched.
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Old 12-04-2012, 06:49 PM   #166
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We'll see how he handles this offseason. What he does will forever show that he doesn't give a flying ****. egoli will be here, crennel will "retire". we'll draft a d lineman. quinn will start. we'll draft landry jones to back him up
What was your honest opinion when Pioli was hired? Did you think oh shit what a mistake, this shows Clark doesn't care?

If he fails to address the situation this off season, yea it shows Clark is nutless. I don't think that's going to happen.
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Old 12-04-2012, 06:57 PM   #167
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Hiring the highest paid and most sought after GM in the NFL his 2nd year in charge?

Yea it was a colossal **** up but it wasn't from lack of effort and 90% of the NFL world thought it was a great hire.
We all thought it was a good hire, but not putting him on a PIP after so many clearly questionable player acquisitions and not getting close enough to see how these poor acquisitions were a sign that it was a LOT more than him being the "magic" that is New England, is what draws so much ire from me. So as I said before, no need to a Jerry Jones, but if you're not going to be a Jerry Jones you need to be close enough to remind him that these head-scratching first-round picks, and an allegiance to a QB that only he sees as a franchise QB, has him on a short short rope. Gum wrappers??? I mean I get the concept of attention to detail, but Chunt letting Pioli do all these things that were cheap knock-offs of the Patriot way sure don't seem to work without an world-class QB and equally awesome head coach - who seems anything but affected by what the GM thinks. I could be wrong, but I don't think BB ever really cared too much about what Pioli thought!

Undue pressure on a GM? Nope, it's the nature of the business. When you talk the owner into paying a QB that kind of coin, you tell the QB he's going to have to perform.

I'm not saying it's easy, but we all have numbers we have to meet "or else."
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Old 12-04-2012, 06:59 PM   #168
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How do you know he didn't put him on a PI plan?
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Old 12-04-2012, 07:09 PM   #169
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How do you know he didn't put him on a PI plan?
Just like anybody else, you call them in and give them performance metric they need to meet or exceed. It's no different between than any other employee, it might just be done over dinner at Morton's instead of the office. In the end, he's an employee just like every other employee. They all have challenges in terms of supervising, but in the end you don't have to be specific about the "or else." I'm sure if he just indicated that if some of these questionable hires don't produce on the field, he may have to bring in some people to help him make those final decisions and judge talent and the team's needs. Subtle but effective for a proud man like Scott.
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Old 12-04-2012, 07:11 PM   #170
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Just like anybody else, you call them in and give them performance metric they need to meet or exceed. It's no different between than any other employee...
Only it is.

A huge difference...
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Old 12-04-2012, 07:14 PM   #171
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At the people in this thread who not only have the audacity to call Hunt stupid, but also provide their takes on how to be a good owner. It's similar to those who say they "watch the tape" and act as if they know coaching strategy.

Shut up.
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Only it is.

A huge difference...
You're right, it's done with a $500 bottle of wine, cloth napkins and a coat check... Other than that, the base concept is the same.
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You're right, it's done with a $500 bottle of wine, cloth napkins and a coat check... Other than that, the base concept is the same.
If it was Pioli would have been stripped down as a human being and thrown out on his ass after game 5...
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If it was Pioli would have been stripped down as a human being and thrown out on his ass after game 5...
Then there's that non-HR-recommended way of handling it...
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Then there's that non-HR-recommended way of handling it...
The way most employers do.

If you fail horribly, at every level, and do so for years...well, in the real world that's not even possible.
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The way most employers do.

If you fail horribly, at every level, and do so for years...well, in the real world that's not even possible.
I'm not against it... If we're going to have a reasonable "failure is not an option" mindset, longterm employment for just showing up is going to need to be a thing of the past... So picking up gum wrappers is fine, but you need 12 wins in the regular season to keep working here... and even with that mindset, if we had another year like last year - where so many players had legitimate season-ending injuries - I'm willing to bet there would have been some deserved understanding.
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Show off your knowledge to me, genius. Let's see if you've been studying:

What's the difference between a fact and an opinion? Give examples of both.
Clark Hunt is the man at the helm of ruining your sundays for the past several years. My opinion is that he will continue to do this to you

That is Clark Hunt's legacy. If he has done anything for his wealth per se, it has not contributed to the riches that are the Lamar Hunt & father estate.
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I'm not against it... If we're going to have a reasonable "failure is not an option" mindset, longterm employment for just showing up is going to need to be a thing of the past... So picking up gum wrappers is fine, but you need 12 wins in the regular season to keep working here... and even with that mindset, if we had another year like last year - where so many players had legitimate season-ending injuries - I'm willing to bet there would have been some deserved understanding.
Break it down do simple terms:

1) Pioli has never drafted a player who has HOF potential in 4 years.
2) Pioli has not drafted or signed more than 1 pro bowl player in 4 years.
3) In 4 years Pioli has only taken this team to one playoff game. We were not competitive in that game.

Compare that performance to any other GM in the league...
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This thread should be bumped in a month when Clark keeps Pioli.

The people defending him right now will change their tune and destroy him.

Can't wait. I'll have the popcorn ready!
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