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Old 12-04-2012, 12:57 AM  
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Jovan Belcher was one sick son of B****

Exclusive: As troubles at home simmered, Chiefs tried to help Jovan Belcher
Police said the team was providing counseling to Jovan Belcher and his girlfriend, Kasandra Perkins. But Belcher, before taking his own life in the parking lot of the Chiefs’ practice facility, said it wasn’t enough to fix their problems.
By CHRISTINE VENDEL
The Kansas City Star




Seconds after fatally shooting his longtime girlfriend, Kansas City Chiefs linebacker Jovan Belcher leaned over her in their master bathroom, said he was sorry and kissed her on the forehead.

His mother, who heard gunfire as she stood in the kitchen, rushed to her son’s bedroom and watched his remorseful goodbye.

Belcher apologized to his mother, kissed his 3-month-old daughter and fled his rented home in the 5400 block of Crysler Avenue in his Bentley.


The Star learned those details and others from multiple police sources Monday as officers continued their investigation into why Belcher, 25, killed his live-in girlfriend, Kasandra Perkins, 22, on Saturday morning. Arguments over relationship and financial issues had simmered for months between them, according to the sources.

Belcher’s mother, who came from New York to live with her son so the couple could work through their issues, didn’t hear much of the argument. But just before 8 a.m., she heard her son say something to the effect of: “You can’t talk to me like that!”

Then she heard gunfire.

Afterward, Belcher drove to the only place he felt safe — to his other family at Arrowhead Stadium, police said.

As he covered the five miles from his home to the stadium, his violent act weighed on him, police believe.

“He probably realized he had done something and he couldn’t go back,” said Police Sgt. Richard Sharp.

In the parking lot of the practice facility at 1 Arrowhead Drive, Belcher encountered Chiefs General Manager Scott Pioli. Belcher stepped out of his Bentley with a gun pointed at his own head, police said.

“I did it,” he said, according to police. “I killed her.”

Club officials knew about the couple’s problems. The Chiefs had provided counseling and “were bending over backward” to help, Sharp said.

But Belcher told Pioli that the assistance wasn’t enough to fix their problems and now, “It was too late.”

When another Chiefs employee arrived, Pioli told him to stay back. Meanwhile Pioli tried to persuade Belcher to lay down the weapon, Sharp said.

Belcher thanked Pioli for everything he had done for him. He asked if he and Clark Hunt would take care of his daughter.

Chiefs Head Coach Romeo Crennel and linebackers coach Gary Gibbs arrived in the parking lot and Belcher reportedly announced, “Guys, I have to do this.”

Crennel tried to dissuade him.

“I was trying to get him to understand that life is not over,” Crennel told The Star. “He still has a chance and let’s get this worked out.’’

As Pioli and Crennel tried to reason with Belcher, the men heard police sirens closing in. Belcher then walked a few steps away with the gun still pointed at his head.

“I got to go,” Belcher reportedly said. “I can’t be here.”

Belcher knelt behind a vehicle and made the sign of the cross across his chest before firing a single bullet into his head.

Kansas City police believe Belcher killed himself because he was distraught over what he had done to Perkins.

“He cared about her,” Sharp said. “I don’t think he could live with himself.”

The night before the killings, Perkins had attended a concert downtown with friends, and Belcher had “partied” at the Power and Light District, police said. It was unclear when they arrived home, where Belcher’s mother was watching their baby. A woman who answered Belcher’s mother’s cell phone Monday declined to comment.

Detectives don’t know what specifically sparked the argument between the couple at home, but a friend of Perkins told The Star that the couple argued around 1 a.m. Saturday when Perkins returned home from the Trey Songz concert and drinks with friends afterward. Belcher was mad she had stayed out so late, the friend said.

Sometime later, Kansas City police talked with Belcher after finding him asleep in his Bentley on Armour Boulevard. Officers determined he was able to drive himself home. Police believe he arrived home about 7 a.m., well before a 9:30 team meeting. That’s when the yelling began.

Police said youth, immaturity and financial pressures served as a backdrop. During his college years, Belcher allegedly punched a dormitory window because he was upset over a woman.

Autopsies with toxicology tests were performed on both bodies, but results will take weeks, police said. Investigators believe alcohol may have played a role in the argument’s escalation.

Police recovered several legally owned guns from Belcher’s home. Investigators were testing each one, and the gun found with Belcher’s body, against shell casings and bullets they recovered.

Police spokesman Darin Snapp said Monday that Belcher’s mother, who had been staying with the couple, was given temporary custody of the couple’s daughter. But he said it was unclear if the grandmother and baby were still in the Kansas City area.

Perkins, who grew up in Texas, met Belcher, who grew up in New York, through a cousin, Whitney Golden Charles, the wife of Chiefs running back Jamaal Charles. Perkins moved to Kansas City in 2010 to be with Belcher. Her relatives learned of her death from the news, police said. A woman who answered the phone at a relative’s home Monday declined to comment.

Monday afternoon, the family issued a statement that spelled Perkins’ first name with a double s, though she spelled it with one on her Facebook page:

“On behalf of the Perkins Family, we appreciate the outpouring of love and concern for our Kassandra ‘Kasi’ Perkins. Our hearts are truly broken for Kasi was a beloved daughter, granddaughter, sister, mother, cousin and friend.…

“Please keep us in your hearts and prayers as well as the Belcher family for two lives were loss. Again we thank you for your support, our wish is for Kasi to be remembered for the love she shared with us all. Kasi will be truly missed!”

Jamaal Charles also released a statement: “Our family has suffered a personal tragic loss.… As this is a very tough time for our family, I ask that we are respected as we grieve. Kassandra was not only family, but a friend and a loving mother. As my actual family and my Kansas City Chiefs family have been altered forever, we ask that you keep us and most importantly their child in prayer. Thank you all for your continued support.”

Later Monday, Belcher’s somber relatives provided statements outside of Belcher’s boyhood home in New York. Yamiesse Lawrence, a cousin of Belcher’s, said the weekend’s events were an “inconceivable tragedy.”

“As a family, no words can express the sorrow we feel over the loss of Jovan and Kasandra,” Lawrence read aloud.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/12/04...#storylink=cpy

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Old 12-05-2012, 12:27 AM   #511
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No, it does not. But hindsight is 50/50.

In all seriousness, there were signs. I'm not blaming anyone or castigating anyone, but, there was a little something there.
Based on those signs, we have several serial killers here at CP.
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:30 AM   #512
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You're joking, right?

I'm not going to make this personal but I don't know anyone that's smashed through a plate glass window because they were mad at a girl, nor do I know anyone that was interviewed even ONCE by campus police for transgressions against women, let alone, more than once.

I'll just say this and **** all you mother****ers: If you're punching holes in drywall or bricks or pulling other stupid shit over a member of the opposite sex, you need psychological help

That is ****ED UP.


Seven BILLION people on the planet. MORE women than men. If you feel the need to hurt or injure a woman, seek help.


A noise complaint.
A smashed window.

You can't conclude that Jovan Belcher was a sick man with a history of violence from that. He never hurt a woman before he shot Kasandra or if he did, it was never reported. He was also never arrested to my knowledge (I'm still waiting for you to show me the facts on that.)

I don't have anything personal against you, Dane, I just had to call you out on this because it was getting pretty ridiculous.

His closest friends had no idea he was capable of doing something like that and if we're going to start theorizing, I don't think Javon had any idea either. That's probably why he shot himself in the end.

I think there are just too many variables here. He was obviously a very passionate individual. He was suffering from pain and head trauma. We will see what the autopsy reports show, he might have been drunk and on a bunch of Oxycodone or Hydrocodone. Who knows?
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:32 AM   #513
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John Goodman thread. You threatened to kick my ass. I gave my address for the most part and invited you over.


Hahaha. I don't remember that, but if I threatened to kick your ass, I assure you I was just kidding. I don't think I could kick your ass if I wanted to and I never have.
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:37 AM   #514
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A noise complaint.
A smashed window.
So, the SI article was inconclusive?



This wasn't a random act of violence. The guy had one face for his professional career and one face for his personal life.

His lifelong friends say they knew nothing about his gun fascination, let alone the fact he owned nine guns.

The guy was jacked up.
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Old 12-05-2012, 12:54 AM   #515
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So, the SI article was inconclusive?



This wasn't a random act of violence. The guy had one face for his professional career and one face for his personal life.

His lifelong friends say they knew nothing about his gun fascination, let alone the fact he owned nine guns.

The guy was jacked up.

Dane, take a step back and take an objective look at the situation.

Imagine there is no murder-suicide and there's a guy out there who smashed a window a long time ago while drunk in college.

Imagine that guy was also involved in a shouting match with his girlfriend in a separate incident and the neighbors called the police because of the noise.

Imagine this guy was very responsible in college, played football and took a serious major as opposed to an easy-A, athlete major.

He was never in any sort of trouble and by all accounts was a high-character guy.

Would you honestly deem this guy as some sort of a threat to those around him?

Also, there was a quote in one of the articles you, yourself, linked attributed to Javon in which he discussed his collection of guns with a friend or an acquaintance. I don't think his collection was any sort of a dark secret.
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Hahaha. I don't remember that, but if I threatened to kick your ass, I assure you I was just kidding. I don't think I could kick your ass if I wanted to and I never have.
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Only the ones he loved the most.
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Dane, take a step back and take an objective look at the situation.

Imagine there is no murder-suicide and there's a guy out there who smashed a window a long time ago while drunk in college.

Imagine that guy was also involved in a shouting match with his girlfriend in a separate incident and the neighbors called the police because of the noise.

Imagine this guy was very responsible in college, played football and took a serious major as opposed to an easy-A, athlete major.

He was never in any sort of trouble and by all accounts was a high-character guy.

Would you honestly deem this guy as some sort of a threat to those around him?

Also, there was a quote in one of the articles you, yourself, linked attributed to Javon in which he discussed his collection of guns with a friend or an acquaintance. I don't think his collection was any sort of a dark secret.
You're right about this. Some people have a hard time reeling in their emotions and looking at these things objectively.
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Dane, take a step back and take an objective look at the situation.

Imagine there is no murder-suicide and there's a guy out there who smashed a window a long time ago while drunk in college.

Imagine that guy was also involved in a shouting match with his girlfriend in a separate incident and the neighbors called the police because of the noise.

Imagine this guy was very responsible in college, played football and took a serious major as opposed to an easy-A, athlete major.

He was never in any sort of trouble and by all accounts was a high-character guy.

Would you honestly deem this guy as some sort of a threat to those around him?

Also, there was a quote in one of the articles you, yourself, linked attributed to Javon in which he discussed his collection of guns with a friend or an acquaintance. I don't think his collection was any sort of a dark secret.
Completely agree.
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Dispatcher: You did the right thing. [Simultaneous talking] We need the address.

Caller: The address is [redacted]. Yes. Please get the ambulance here. Please. [redacted] Oh God, Kasi.

Dispatcher: We have a shooting at [redacted]. it sounds like. Ma'am, her name is [redacted]? Is it an apartment?

Caller: It's a house! [Inaudible] Please hurry!

Dispatcher: Ma'am? Let me see if I can help you. Are you with the baby now? [Simultaneous talking] We're on the way. We've been on the way the whole time. How old is the patient?
Caller: 22.

Dispatcher: Male or female?

Caller: Female.

Dispatcher: Is she breathing?

Caller: She's still breathing but barely. Please hurry. I don't know how many times he shot her. They were arguing.

Dispatcher: So she's been shot?

Caller: Yes. (To victim) The ambulance is on the way! You hear me? You hear this? Fight!

Dispatcher: Is she awake? Does she hear what you're saying?

Caller: Yes. She's moving when I talk to her.

Dispatcher: Is she bleeding?

Caller: Yes, she is. (baby crying in background)

Dispatcher: Where is she bleeding from?

Caller: I can't tell - in the back, it looks like.

Dispatcher: OK. We don't want - Go ahead. Where is your son at?

Caller: (Inaudible) Just get the ambulance here, please.

Dispatcher: We're on the way. Where is your son at?

Caller: He left.

Dispatcher: He left?

Caller: Yes.

Dispatcher: OK, they were arguing and he shot her?

Caller: Yes, yes, they were arguing.

Dispatcher: OK. What's your son's name?

Caller: [Redacted] Please just get the ambulance here.

Dispatcher: Ma'am...

Caller: I have to get the baby.

Dispatcher: What kind of car did your son leave in? Or is he on foot? ... Sounds like she disconnected. She doesn't want to answer questions. Ma'am, are you there? ... Ma'am?

Shortly afterward, a call came from Arrowhead Stadium, where Belcher had apparently already committed suicide.

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Caller: Hello. We need a Code One ambulance although they think he's probably dead.
Number 1 Arrowhead Drive - that's the practice field at the Chiefs Stadium. It's a self-inflicted shooting. It's a done deal. They've got a player that shot himself.

Dispatcher: A player?

Caller: Yeah.

Dispatcher: What parking lot?

Caller: They still need you.

Dispatcher: We're on our way.

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