2013 QB Class

[kcbubb]

Originally Posted by ROYC75

UH, NO!

Smith & /or Wilson is / will be better than Flacco.

Barkley ..... no comment.

Tyler Wilson is the next Brian Brohm. Petrino coached QB's often look better in college than they do on Sundays. We should definitely take a QB high, but I really don't know which one. I just know it doesn't need to be Wilson.

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by kcbubb

Tyler Wilson is the next Brian Brohm. Petrino coached QB's often look better in college than they do on Sundays. We should definitely take a QB high, but I really don't know which one. I just know it doesn't need to be Wilson.

No way, but hey, time will tell.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Flacco is awful.

[O.city]

Guarantee if this were last year and we were in this position, the general fan would find fault with Luck.


We would have been scared shitless about his "lack of armstrength" or some BS.


This is the same group that didn't want Matt Stafford or Matt Ryan.

[Mr. Laz]

If you combine last and this year's QB class you would find that the best of this year's class would be fighting to be the 3,4 or 5th ranked QB. Most of the draftubators didn't want Tannehill even at #12 and this year he would be challenging for the top QB spot.

*** And that's not even counting Russell Wilson who's real NFL production should put him #3

1. Luck
2. RGIII
3. Geno Smith
4. Tannehill
5. Weeden
6. Tyler Wilson
7. Barkley
8. Bray
9. Osweiler
10. Russell Wilson ***

I have already said that the Chiefs don't have much of a choice. They take Geno Smith or Tyler Wilson and HOPE that they live up to their potential.

Doesn't mean i can't understand people's doubt about the QB position this year though.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by Laz

If you combine last and this year's QB class you would find that the best of this year's class would be fighting to be the 3,4 or 5th ranked QB. Most of the draftubators didn't want Tannehill even at #12 and this year he would be challenging for the top QB spot.

*** And that's not even counting Russell Wilson who's real NFL production should put him #3

1. Luck
2. RGIII
3. Geno Smith
4. Tannehill
5. Weeden
6. Tyler Wilson
7. Barkley
8. Bray
9. Osweiler
10. Russell Wilson ***

I have already said that the Chiefs don't have much of a choice. They take Geno Smith or Tyler Wilson and HOPE that they live up to their potential.

Doesn't mean i can't understand people's doubt about the QB position this year though.

No chance Weeden would be ranked higher than Wilson.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by Laz

If you combine last and this year's QB class you would find that the best of this year's class would be fighting to be the 3,4 or 5th ranked QB. Most of the draftubators didn't want Tannehill even at #12 and this year he would be challenging for the top QB spot.

*** And that's not even counting Russell Wilson who's real NFL production should put him #3

1. Luck
2. RGIII
3. Geno Smith
4. Tannehill
5. Weeden
6. Tyler Wilson
7. Barkley
8. Bray
9. Osweiler
10. Russell Wilson ***

I have already said that the Chiefs don't have much of a choice. They take Geno Smith or Tyler Wilson and HOPE that they live up to their potential.

Doesn't mean i can't understand people's doubt about the QB position this year though.

actually, 'drafturbators' did want tannehill...or at least a loud crew - of which i was one - and who i assume you mean by that

second, Wilson is absolutely the prospect that Tannehill is...and Weeden is old geezer i wouldn't even rank due to age..

being 3rd and 4th behind Luck and RG3 (who most people here didn't think was great, and wouldn't have traded for) is not a knock...

people are just using Luck for cover for the same old "it's risky" and "he's not good enough" bullshit that happens every ****ing year from a fanbase full of pussies...

what the **** else would Geno Smith need to do - EXACTLY - to be 'not risky' for this fanbase?

i would really like to know...

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

people are just using Luck for cover for the same old "it's risky" and "he's not good enough" bullshit that happens every ****ing year from a fanbase full of pussies...

Whomever we pick, I'm considerably CONSIDERABLY less concerned if he is the next Luck than I am that he is the next Leaf, Carr, or Akili Smith.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Whomever we pick, I'm considerably CONSIDERABLY less concerned if he is the next Luck than I am that he is the next Leaf, Carr, or Akili Smith.

This is what I'm arguing.


If he is the next Leaf, Carr, Smith etc, what does that hurt or set us back?


The risk associated with taking a QB, is absolutely worth the reward, especially in todays NFL.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Whomever we pick, I'm considerably CONSIDERABLY less concerned if he is the next Luck than I am that he is the next Leaf, Carr, or Akili Smith.

That's the risk with any player at any position. And let's be honest here, with this team's record with first round draft picks, what difference would it really make if it is the next Leaf, Carr or Akili Smith. I mean, if we're going to focus on the negative possibility, is that really markedly worse than drafting the next Tyson Jackson or Glenn Dorsey or Larry Johnson or Ryan Sims or Sylvester Morris or John Tait or Victor Riley or Trezelle Jenkins. Is the risk of taking a shot and failing at QB somehow worse than the risk of drafting a "guy" at another position, much less drafting a complete bust. We've got 20 years of first round busts and "just a guy" picks balanced against the one big hit in Tony Gonzalez and the little bubble of hits with DJ, Hali and Bowe. Are there any other players that this team has taken in the first round in the last 20 years that would really hurt us to lose? That's what the "safe" approach has gotten us. What difference would it really have made if they'd taken a Ryan Leaf hit at QB instead of Victor Riley? Or an Akili Smith hit at QB instead of John Tait? Or David Carr instead of Ryan Sims?

All of this completely disregarding the real possibility that we draft someone who isn't a bust at QB.

And there's no better time in the history of the league to it than now, thanks to the CBA and rookie slotting.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

What difference would it really have made if they'd taken a Ryan Leaf hit at QB instead of Victor Riley? Or an Akili Smith hit at QB instead of John Tait? Or David Carr instead of Ryan Sims?

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Whomever we pick, I'm considerably CONSIDERABLY less concerned if he is the next Luck than I am that he is the next Leaf, Carr, or Akili Smith.

oh noes, so risky....we might end up 2-14 if that happens

[O.city]

Thats the thing Laz, you can't put NFL production in there, because you don't know what this years class will be NFL.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by O.city

Thats the thing Laz, you can't put NFL production in there, because you don't know what this years class will be NFL.

i know which is why i left Russel Wilson at 10 even though he has clearly been more productive than others.

ranking wise you can see the issue people have ......... if you choose to

[Pasta Little Brioni]

T.Wilson > Tannehill

R. Wilson>>>>>>Assweiler