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Old 12-11-2012, 04:59 PM   #1
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You say sophistry, I say reading the words you posted.

You and htis were emphatically saying 'pick one, just pick one. who cares which one, who cares if he busts, we need one.'

All I countered with was 'you need to do a little more due diligence, and carefully analyze if he's not going to bust is not a clearly inferior prospect to the rest of the available draft class.

After a bunch of bullshit, you guys finally come out with 'of course it was ASSUMED that he was an undeniable #1 prospect with low likelihood of busting.'

I want a QB as much as anyone, and have been as vocal about it as anyone here FOR YEARS. Doesn't mean I want the Chiefs to go QB blind and throw a dart at some QB only draft chart.
And I call sophistry "sophistry." You were quick to point out the inconsistencies and logical fallacies in my argument while engaging in your own (slippery slope, anyone?). I call what you did Geno's Paradox (heh... get it?)

The "pick any QB" argument has limits like anything. Geno Smith and Tyler Wilson aren't even ****ing CLOSE to that limit. If you're saying we need to observe draft value procedures because it's those two guys and not Luck and RGIII, you've got a terrible football mind. Geno Smith and Tyler Wilson are above average QB prospects, dude.
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:42 AM   #2
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Say you take teo and he becomes the best player at his position in the league. Where does that put the Chiefs, best case scenario?


The best WR in the league was once on a team that didn't win a single game. The best or one of the best LT's in the league is on a team that's been having top 10 picks since he's been in the league.

Look at the best most consistent teams in the league and tell me what they have in common.
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:43 AM   #3
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Kiper and Brooks now both calling Glennon a top 1-2 QB...just don't see it off the tape. He's got tools, but so inconsistent.
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:44 AM   #4
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We have to take a QB in round 1 -- not just because we don't have a legit QB, but to sell 2013 season tickets. Whoever we take with the 1st or 2nd or whatever pick will be the face of the franchise for the season ticket sales ad blitz.
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:51 AM   #5
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We have to take a QB in round 1 -- not just because we don't have a legit QB, but to sell 2013 season tickets. Whoever we take with the 1st or 2nd or whatever pick will be the face of the franchise for the season ticket sales ad blitz.
Yep.

Clark isn't dumb.

A 1st-round QB would instantly energize the ticket buying base.
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:46 AM   #6
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I'm waiting to see how Mayock breaks the QB class down.
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I wish we could "bank" this pick for a year, pickup the last pick of the first round, then have the #1 overall for the following draft, plus whatever draft pick we have after the 2013 season.
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I wish we could "bank" this pick for a year, pickup the last pick of the first round, then have the #1 overall for the following draft, plus whatever draft pick we have after the 2013 season.
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I wish we could "bank" this pick for a year, pickup the last pick of the first round, then have the #1 overall for the following draft, plus whatever draft pick we have after the 2013 season.
So we can select.... whom?

If you think this QB is terrible, then 2014's will be the worst piece of shit you've ever seen.
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All we have to do is go through another year like this one and we can draft Johnny Manziel!
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:51 AM   #14
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I don't think this QB class is all that bad either.

I'll take a 6'3" QB that completed 70% of his passes for 4000 yards and threw 40 TDs and 6 INTs. I don't really understand what's to debate. Geno blows away J. Russell when you look at the stats. I think the difference is that Russell came out of LSU and Geno plays for WV. Geno is basically all his team has, while JR played on a team loaded with talent on both sides of the ball.

I'll be thrilled when the Chiefs draft Geno Smith. The Chiefs also need to do everything they can to resign Albert and Bowe. If that happens Smith would be landing in an awesome situation from the get-go. I doubt there has been any other #1 draft pick that would have landed in such a good situation.
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Teo #1 and Bray in the second round.
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