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Old 12-11-2012, 10:06 AM  
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2013 QB Class
This was posted in another thread by Milkman, but it got overlooked so I'm making a thread out of it.

I know, another QB thread. But this needs to be put out there for some of the "posters" here to see and think about.

The top three in this years class are in no particular order:

Geno Smith
Tyler Wilson
Matt Barkley

Thats not counting Bray, Glennon, Nassib, etc. Who are all talented in their own right.

So, many posters here want to say, "no not this year, this class is awful don't take one, there isn't a Luck or RGIII in the bunch", which isn't necessarily false.

No there isn't a once in a decade guy. Which is probably what Luck was. Hell even more there have been 2 guys of his stature come out in the last 20 or so years. Luck and Manning.

Yet there are franchise QB's all over the league. How is that so you may ask?

Lets take a look at the last 5 QB classes top 3 guys to come out and get drafted, taking out 2012's class.

2007
Jamarcus Russel
Brady Quinn
Kevin Kolb

2008
Matt Ryan
Joe Flacco
Brian Brohm

2009
Matt Stafford
Mark Sanchez
Josh Freeman

2010
Sam Bradford
Tim Tebow
Jimmy Clausen

2011
Cam Newton
Blaine Gabbert
Jake Locker

Look at those classes and no, you have to evaluate them at the time they were picked, not what they are now, we don't know what this years class will be in the NFL.

I'd argue that this years class is more loaded than any of those classes at the top and from top to bottom.

So, you wanna argue that this isn't a year to take a QB? I'll argue that its a great year to take a QB.
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:40 AM   #31
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it's just a higher brow version of "QB X isn't good enough for the Chiefs"

every year...the QBs aren't good enough

every year, we should have drafted a QB last year

it's risky, ya know
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:40 AM   #32
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it's just a higher brow version of "QB X isn't good enough for the Chiefs"

every year...the QBs aren't good enough

every year, we should have drafted a QB last year

it's risky, ya know
Wait till next year, there's a better class coming out.
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:42 AM   #33
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it's just a higher brow version of "QB X isn't good enough for the Chiefs"

every year...the QBs aren't good enough

every year, we should have drafted a QB last year

it's risky, ya know
Careful. Baby Lee will come in and wizard you to death with this bullshit sophistry
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:42 AM   #34
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Does somebody want to take the bait on this?

Andrew Luck is the best overall QB to enter the draft in a long, long time.

Is he the best QB to enter the draft to be the best at every aspect of playing the position in a long, long, time? In other words, is it possible that there's a QB who is better than him at a particular part of the position other than athletic ability?

That's what I can't get over. Luck is great because he has no glaring flaws. He's not great because he's the greatest at EVERYTHING. He's not.
His arm strength wouldn't really be classified as "elite". It's above average.....but not tops in the NFL.
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:42 AM   #35
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Wait till next year, there's a better class coming out.
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:42 AM   #36
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Say you take teo and he becomes the best player at his position in the league. Where does that put the Chiefs, best case scenario?


The best WR in the league was once on a team that didn't win a single game. The best or one of the best LT's in the league is on a team that's been having top 10 picks since he's been in the league.

Look at the best most consistent teams in the league and tell me what they have in common.
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:43 AM   #37
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Kiper and Brooks now both calling Glennon a top 1-2 QB...just don't see it off the tape. He's got tools, but so inconsistent.
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:44 AM   #38
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We have to take a QB in round 1 -- not just because we don't have a legit QB, but to sell 2013 season tickets. Whoever we take with the 1st or 2nd or whatever pick will be the face of the franchise for the season ticket sales ad blitz.
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I'm waiting to see how Mayock breaks the QB class down.
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I wish we could "bank" this pick for a year, pickup the last pick of the first round, then have the #1 overall for the following draft, plus whatever draft pick we have after the 2013 season.
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All we have to do is go through another year like this one and we can draft Johnny Manziel!
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We have to take a QB in round 1 -- not just because we don't have a legit QB, but to sell 2013 season tickets. Whoever we take with the 1st or 2nd or whatever pick will be the face of the franchise for the season ticket sales ad blitz.
Yep.

Clark isn't dumb.

A 1st-round QB would instantly energize the ticket buying base.
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