Chiefs 2013 QB Class - Page 5

O.city · 12-11-2012, 10:06 AM

This was posted in another thread by Milkman, but it got overlooked so I'm making a thread out of it.

I know, another QB thread. But this needs to be put out there for some of the "posters" here to see and think about.

The top three in this years class are in no particular order:

Geno Smith
Tyler Wilson
Matt Barkley

Thats not counting Bray, Glennon, Nassib, etc. Who are all talented in their own right.

So, many posters here want to say, "no not this year, this class is awful don't take one, there isn't a Luck or RGIII in the bunch", which isn't necessarily false.

No there isn't a once in a decade guy. Which is probably what Luck was. Hell even more there have been 2 guys of his stature come out in the last 20 or so years. Luck and Manning.

Yet there are franchise QB's all over the league. How is that so you may ask?

Lets take a look at the last 5 QB classes top 3 guys to come out and get drafted, taking out 2012's class.

2007
Jamarcus Russel
Brady Quinn
Kevin Kolb

2008
Matt Ryan
Joe Flacco
Brian Brohm

2009
Matt Stafford
Mark Sanchez
Josh Freeman

2010
Sam Bradford
Tim Tebow
Jimmy Clausen

2011
Cam Newton
Blaine Gabbert
Jake Locker

Look at those classes and no, you have to evaluate them at the time they were picked, not what they are now, we don't know what this years class will be in the NFL.

I'd argue that this years class is more loaded than any of those classes at the top and from top to bottom.

So, you wanna argue that this isn't a year to take a QB? I'll argue that its a great year to take a QB.

O.city · 12-11-2012, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by FAX

Truly stated, Mr. o.city ... with one minor correction ... Pioli hasn't actually drafted/brought in those building blocks you mentioned (LT, 2 top-notch pass rushers, franchise WR). With the exception of Houston and the janitor, he hasn't drafted/brought in a franchise anything.

FAX

Somewhat true.

Some of the draft picks/ FA pickups he's made I've liked, but they haven't done much of anything.

Which is a reason I'd argue that this coaching staff isn't doing anything for anyone.

RUSH · 12-11-2012, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR

So we can select.... whom?

If you think this QB is terrible, then 2014's will be the worst piece of shit you've ever seen.

Yup. Bridgewater is pretty much it and he might not even come out next year. I expect Bray to declare this year.

Might be the first time in a while that a QB doesn't go #1. Clowney might have that on lock, but there's a lot of time.

Bump · 12-11-2012, 11:23 AM

here is a Chiefs fan on reddit and his take on what we should do about QB. I swear Chiefs fans are ****ing stupid!

I want Vince Young. The dude is a competitor, he can win games, and I'm assuming he has been humbled by the fact he's been sitting out a year. Hopefully this means he can be picked up for cheap. Sign him to a one year deal and tell him to put up or shut up. This allows us to use our first picks to solidify other positions. We could then maybe pick up a late round QB and let him develop for a year.

Other options include Flynn, Colt McCoy, David Garrard, and Brett Favre of course.

Pasta Little Brioni · 12-11-2012, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR

And that dude was BlackBob

I thought it was that RunKC dude.

**RealSNR** · 12-11-2012, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM

I thought it was that RunKC dude.

You're not helping the situation

**bevischief** · 12-11-2012, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump

here is a Chiefs fan on reddit and his take on what we should do about QB. I swear Chiefs fans are ****ing stupid!

I want Vince Young. The dude is a competitor, he can win games, and I'm assuming he has been humbled by the fact he's been sitting out a year. Hopefully this means he can be picked up for cheap. Sign him to a one year deal and tell him to put up or shut up. This allows us to use our first picks to solidify other positions. We could then maybe pick up a late round QB and let him develop for a year.

Other options include Flynn, Colt McCoy, David Garrard, and Brett Favre of course.

Pasta Little Brioni · 12-11-2012, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR

You're not helping the situation

Oh, I'm helping it

htismaqe · 12-11-2012, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump

here is a Chiefs fan on reddit and his take on what we should do about QB. I swear Chiefs fans are ****ing stupid!

I want Vince Young. The dude is a competitor, he can win games, and I'm assuming he has been humbled by the fact he's been sitting out a year. Hopefully this means he can be picked up for cheap. Sign him to a one year deal and tell him to put up or shut up. This allows us to use our first picks to solidify other positions. We could then maybe pick up a late round QB and let him develop for a year.

Other options include Flynn, Colt McCoy, David Garrard, and Brett Favre of course.

suds79 · 12-11-2012, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by OzarksChiefsFan

Teo #1 and Bray in the second round.

The stats don't lie.

O.city · 12-11-2012, 11:34 AM

Most Chief fans are scared of the unknown.

They know that with a retread there is a chance that we could get back to 9-7 and possible playoffs.

They don't know that if you draft and develop your own guy, you can be what the Packers, Steelers, Pats, Broncos, Colts, etc are.

They are just scared.

But that shits gonna end real quick. Because when we trot out our new shiny first round QB next year, if they start questioning whoever it is too quick, CP will start flying banners to shut the dumbass true fans up.

**mdchiefsfan** · 12-11-2012, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Draft Value, with the new CBA, is basically out the window.

You essentially are paying a top 5 pick now, what you payed what a late first early second rounder previously?

This

**mdchiefsfan** · 12-11-2012, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by suds79

The stats don't lie.

Oh how I would love a red and gold G. Smith jersey in this picture.

Bump · 12-11-2012, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan

Oh how I would love a red and gold G. Smith jersey in this picture.

BUT BUT BUT it's too risky! OH NOES, Geno = Jemarcus

/chiefs fans everywhere else but here.

Bewbies · 12-11-2012, 11:47 AM

That chart is gold.

htismaqe · 12-11-2012, 11:54 AM

Adam Teicher says there are no good options for the Chiefs at QB. This is a "horrible, horrible year" to need a QB.

Petro asked him what the Chiefs should do at QB and he actually said "hope the Broncos cut Peyton Manning".

12-11-2012, 10:06 AM
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-725936	2013 QB Class This was posted in another thread by Milkman, but it got overlooked so I'm making a thread out of it. I know, another QB thread. But this needs to be put out there for some of the "posters" here to see and think about. The top three in this years class are in no particular order: Geno Smith Tyler Wilson Matt Barkley Thats not counting Bray, Glennon, Nassib, etc. Who are all talented in their own right. So, many posters here want to say, "no not this year, this class is awful don't take one, there isn't a Luck or RGIII in the bunch", which isn't necessarily false. No there isn't a once in a decade guy. Which is probably what Luck was. Hell even more there have been 2 guys of his stature come out in the last 20 or so years. Luck and Manning. Yet there are franchise QB's all over the league. How is that so you may ask? Lets take a look at the last 5 QB classes top 3 guys to come out and get drafted, taking out 2012's class. 2007 Jamarcus Russel Brady Quinn Kevin Kolb 2008 Matt Ryan Joe Flacco Brian Brohm 2009 Matt Stafford Mark Sanchez Josh Freeman 2010 Sam Bradford Tim Tebow Jimmy Clausen 2011 Cam Newton Blaine Gabbert Jake Locker Look at those classes and no, you have to evaluate them at the time they were picked, not what they are now, we don't know what this years class will be in the NFL. I'd argue that this years class is more loaded than any of those classes at the top and from top to bottom. So, you wanna argue that this isn't a year to take a QB? I'll argue that its a great year to take a QB.
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12-11-2012, 11:23 AM	#63
Bump YOU take YOUR seat Join Date: Nov 2007 Casino cash: $-1664895	here is a Chiefs fan on reddit and his take on what we should do about QB. I swear Chiefs fans are ****ing stupid! I want Vince Young. The dude is a competitor, he can win games, and I'm assuming he has been humbled by the fact he's been sitting out a year. Hopefully this means he can be picked up for cheap. Sign him to a one year deal and tell him to put up or shut up. This allows us to use our first picks to solidify other positions. We could then maybe pick up a late round QB and let him develop for a year. Other options include Flynn, Colt McCoy, David Garrard, and Brett Favre of course.
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12-11-2012, 11:34 AM	#70
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-725936	Most Chief fans are scared of the unknown. They know that with a retread there is a chance that we could get back to 9-7 and possible playoffs. They don't know that if you draft and develop your own guy, you can be what the Packers, Steelers, Pats, Broncos, Colts, etc are. They are just scared. But that shits gonna end real quick. Because when we trot out our new shiny first round QB next year, if they start questioning whoever it is too quick, CP will start flying banners to shut the dumbass true fans up.
Posts: 84,240

12-11-2012, 11:47 AM	#74
Bewbies Ith Fuhtbawl Time Join Date: Apr 2010 Casino cash: $9999900	That chart is gold.
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12-11-2012, 11:54 AM	#75
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $8099900	Adam Teicher says there are no good options for the Chiefs at QB. This is a "horrible, horrible year" to need a QB. Petro asked him what the Chiefs should do at QB and he actually said "hope the Broncos cut Peyton Manning".
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