Chiefs Todd McShay Mock Draft - Page 8

ShowtimeSBMVP · 12-12-2012, 11:49 AM

Todd McShay ‏@McShay13

http://es.pn/XTcpqq First Mock Draft of the pre-draft process. Only 1 QB and he's not going to KC. Have at it...

Kansas City Chiefs

Record: 2-11
Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah

This might turn out to be a simple case of bad luck for the Chiefs. They're a year too late to cash in on the Andrew Luck/Robert Griffin III bonanza, and there doesn't appear to be a 2013 quarterback prospect worthy of the No. 1 overall pick. I would have to think West Virginia's Geno Smith would be the choice over USC's Matt Barkley if the Chiefs go that direction, but at this point I think they go elsewhere. Kansas City already has spent first-round picks on the likes of Tyson Jackson and Dontari Poe, but needs a defensive tackle who can hold ground while also providing more pass-rush ability. Lotulelei will never be an elite pass-rusher, but he is strong against the run and has the quickness and power to collapse the pocket. He could become a mainstay in the middle and be good for five to seven sacks per year.

Deberg_1990 · 12-12-2012, 02:00 PM

Looks like 2008 was the last time a QB did not go #1 overall.

IN retrospect, Matt Ryan should have been, because Miami selected Jake Long over him and where has that gotten them?

ShowtimeSBMVP · 12-12-2012, 02:00 PM

By Bill Williamson | ESPN.com

1. Kansas City: Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah

My take: We all know the Chiefs need a quarterback badly and we all know there are no great quarterback choices available at the top of the draft. So, this pick works. He would be another fine player on a potentially good defense. Perhaps the Chiefs could find a bridge veteran quarterback and take someone like North Carolina State’s Mike Glennon in the second round.

ESPN just trolling now.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad · 12-12-2012, 02:01 PM

Jones, Moore, or Milliner are definitely tempting. The true fan in me wants to trade back into first for QB

htismaqe · 12-12-2012, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

By Bill Williamson | ESPN.com

1. Kansas City: Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah

My take: We all know the Chiefs need a quarterback badly and we all know there are no great quarterback choices available at the top of the draft. So, this pick works. He would be another fine player on a potentially good defense. Perhaps the Chiefs could find a bridge veteran quarterback and take someone like North Carolina State’s Mike Glennon in the second round.

ESPN just trolling now.

Yeah, it appears the guys at ESPN are trying to prop up Kiper and McShay's idea that there aren't any elite QBs in this draft.

Toeing the company line, so to speak.

CoMoChief · 12-12-2012, 02:02 PM

So wish we sucked this bad last season.

We'd be sitting pretty w/ Andrew Luck right now.

Romeo and Daboll wouldn't be HC/OC.

**DeezNutz** · 12-12-2012, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudy Was Offsides.

Jones, Moore, or Milliner are definitely tempting. The true fan in me wants to trade back into first for QB

This isn't True Fan. Not anywhere close. Actually, it's being very aggressive, but there isn't a talent after the top 2 guys to justify this type of play.

Worst-case scenario: draft Barkley.
Likely scenario: we draft Smith or Wilson .

Next move: profit.

Deberg_1990 · 12-12-2012, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudy Was Offsides.

Jones, Moore, or Milliner are definitely tempting. The true fan in me wants to trade back into first for QB

You have to have a partner and it appears this is a weaker draft with players that no one truly "covets"

CoMoChief · 12-12-2012, 02:06 PM

If the scouts aren't hot on Geno Smith or this Glennon guy (haven't watched him play at all this year - never really even heard of him before today actually)

And if they think they will both drop to 2nd round, then you take them in the 2nd rd.

What I don't want to happen...is that we take a QB #1 just because we have the #1 overall pick. Yes it is the most important position and we BADLY need one, but there isn't a RGIII or a Andrew Luck coming out of this draft.

I don't know if there really is a clear #1 pick at this point. There are a lot of guys are IMO are in the 5-10 range, but nothing that warrants a #1 overall pick IMO. Just like 2009, IMO it's going to hard as **** to trade down and KC is going to end up reaching again.

**DeezNutz** · 12-12-2012, 02:07 PM

Wait, is he wanting to move back in the draft, or trade back into the first for a QB? I thought the latter and responded in kind.

htismaqe · 12-12-2012, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

What I don't want to happen...is that we take a QB #1 just because we have the #1 overall pick. Yes it is the most important position and we BADLY need one, but there isn't a RGIII or a Andrew Luck coming out of this draft.

I don't know if there really is a clear #1 pick at this point. There are a lot of guys are IMO are in the 5-10 range, but nothing that warrants a #1 overall pick IMO. Just like 2009, IMO it's going to hard as **** to trade down and KC is going to end up reaching again.

Yeah, it sure would suck to pick a guy 8-10 slots too high and HAVE a QB vs. not taking one, trading down, or otherwise take a chance that we get NOBODY AND HAVE NO QB going into next year.

JFC.

**DeezNutz** · 12-12-2012, 02:09 PM

Just sitting, and waiting, and hoping, and praying...

Rudy tossed tigger's salad · 12-12-2012, 02:11 PM

I want to draft Jones/Moore/Milliner and pass on Smith but trade into first round for Wilson or Barkley at some reasonable point.

htismaqe · 12-12-2012, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudy Was Offsides.

I want to draft Jones/Moore/Milliner and pass on Smith but trade into first round for Wilson or Barkley at some reasonable point.

And if that plan fails?

You end up without a QB.

No ****ing way.

BigCatDaddy · 12-12-2012, 02:15 PM

I love how all the true fans glossed over that he had RG3 going 11th and Tannehill out of the top 25 this time last year.

**BigMeatballDave** · 12-12-2012, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

What I don't want to happen...is that we take a QB #1 just because we have the #1 overall pick. Yes it is the most important position and we BADLY need one, but there isn't a RGIII or a Andrew Luck coming out of this draft.

I don't know if there really is a clear #1 pick at this point. There are a lot of guys are IMO are in the 5-10 range, but nothing that warrants a #1 overall pick IMO. Just like 2009, IMO it's going to hard as **** to trade down and KC is going to end up reaching again.

So? Who else are you going to take? What position?

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Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $134454	Looks like 2008 was the last time a QB did not go #1 overall. IN retrospect, Matt Ryan should have been, because Miami selected Jake Long over him and where has that gotten them? __________________ Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning: Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down. One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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ShowtimeSBMVP Chiefs Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $1206009	By Bill Williamson \| ESPN.com 1. Kansas City: Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah My take: We all know the Chiefs need a quarterback badly and we all know there are no great quarterback choices available at the top of the draft. So, this pick works. He would be another fine player on a potentially good defense. Perhaps the Chiefs could find a bridge veteran quarterback and take someone like North Carolina State’s Mike Glennon in the second round. ESPN just trolling now.
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Rudy tossed tigger's salad Better than Nelson Join Date: Mar 2003 Casino cash: $10000400	Jones, Moore, or Milliner are definitely tempting. The true fan in me wants to trade back into first for QB
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CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $7672254	So wish we sucked this bad last season. We'd be sitting pretty w/ Andrew Luck right now. Romeo and Daboll wouldn't be HC/OC. __________________
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12-12-2012, 02:06 PM	#113
CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $7672254	If the scouts aren't hot on Geno Smith or this Glennon guy (haven't watched him play at all this year - never really even heard of him before today actually) And if they think they will both drop to 2nd round, then you take them in the 2nd rd. What I don't want to happen...is that we take a QB #1 just because we have the #1 overall pick. Yes it is the most important position and we BADLY need one, but there isn't a RGIII or a Andrew Luck coming out of this draft. I don't know if there really is a clear #1 pick at this point. There are a lot of guys are IMO are in the 5-10 range, but nothing that warrants a #1 overall pick IMO. Just like 2009, IMO it's going to hard as **** to trade down and KC is going to end up reaching again. __________________
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Rudy tossed tigger's salad Better than Nelson Join Date: Mar 2003 Casino cash: $10000400	I want to draft Jones/Moore/Milliner and pass on Smith but trade into first round for Wilson or Barkley at some reasonable point.
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BigCatDaddy The Beast Inside Your Head Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $-1770878	I love how all the true fans glossed over that he had RG3 going 11th and Tannehill out of the top 25 this time last year.
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