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scho63 · 12-12-2012, 04:54 PM

This has got to be the ugliest and scariest looking women I've seen.

HeShe is 50 years old, was a dude, had his balls and dong clipped, and now plays for a women's college team in California. (Where else but in the land of fruits and nuts!)

This is gross..........

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2276979.html

UPDATE: Steve Czaban and Andy Pollin were temporarily suspended from hosting their show, USA Today reported late Tuesday.

A gay sports outlet has called for the suspension of ESPN Radio/Washington D.C. hosts Steve Czaban and Andy Pollin for mocking transgender college basketball player Gabrielle Ludwig. (Hear the segment above.)

Ludwig, 50, of Fremont, Calif., earned national attention last week when she made her debut for Mission College in the Bay Area 32 years after playing as a man in college. (Watch the video below.)

Outsports says Czaban and Pollin committed a flagrant foul on their Thursday show, referring to Ludwig as "he/she" and "it" while making snide remarks about her appearance.

The news outlet also cited Czaban's conclusion that transgender athletes should not play sports: ”Whatever you’ve got to do to scratch that inner itch and quell those inner demons, that’s fine," he said. "But don’t go playing sports then. And don’t go playing sports saying, ‘but I’ve go the rights of everyone else.' "

Outsports wrote:
"There is simply no legitimate reaction the station could possibly have but to suspend everyone involved. These are disgusting comments of the highest order, meant to demean another human being who has broken no rules and no laws. These men are a disgrace to their profession, and they should be suspended without pay."
The two hosts issued a brief apology on Monday. Chuck Sapienza, the station's vice president for programming, told USA Today the hosts' remarks were "extremely insensitive" and dealt with swiftly, but he could not disclose any punishment.

**Fire Me Boy!** · 12-13-2012, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

I would imagine it was something more along the lines of always feeling like they would prefer to be the other and then finally deciding to change.

That's one of the most ignorant things I've ever read here.

NJChiefsFan · 12-13-2012, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!

That's one of the most ignorant things I've ever read here.

Prefer is not the word I meant and not what I wanted to imply. I meant that the feeling that you are a girl not a boy, not that they just have a preference.

jspchief · 12-13-2012, 07:26 AM

Steve Czaban used to have a really good show with Andrew Siciliano a long time ago, and then one day boom, he was gone. I never could find out what he did to make him fall off the map. I don't think he's been back in radio for all that long.

WhiteWhale · 12-13-2012, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Freaks can't handle being called Freaks. Fat people can't handle being called Fat and so on. Almost no matter how a person phrases what they say it is still wrong.
Everyone else has to change or except it, but not the people that changed or have a different perception of reality.

Yeah, and breast cancer survivors can't handle being called titless, and testicular cancer survivors dislike being called 'uno'.

GEEZ! Get a sense of humor about it!!!

Dumbass.

People have enough problems without assholes like you piling on and then pretending it's a form of honesty.

**Iowanian** · 12-13-2012, 09:12 AM

I guess that will teach him not to fight with Mohillbilly's best jersey bull.

**Saul Good** · 12-13-2012, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

I would imagine it was something more along the lines of always feeling like they are the other sex mentally and then finally deciding to change. (edit)

I will say this, if you do a thing like this, you better be somebody ready to handle the heat that comes from it. If they break down whenever they hear a thing said about them then what the hell were they thinking? That being said....

I am not a big P.C. person. To me my issue wouldn't be with PC but with not being consistent with your own standards. If you are somebody that calls anyone out and easily throws them in a harsh joke then this falls in the same boat. If you wouldn't call an ugly woman "it" on the radio then I don't think you should call this person "it" either. My moral line as a boss would be there. If we are a show where you can't make a person feel like less than a person, then this is off limits. If we are a show where all bets are always off, then whatever.

I just don't think that because this person decides they want to switch that it means we are morally off the hook for treating them different than we treat other people. Again, I don't see it as PC but more just being consistent. If you treat others with respect due to morals, then I think you should do the same in this case or I think you are contradicting yourself imho. Their choice to switch doesn't remove that moral obligation you had prior to the switch. If everyone is fair game to you, then fine, this is too.

Herein lies the problem...even if I agree with your statement that people who change genders should be prepared to deal with this shit (I agree that they should be but only because there are pricks out there who will take shots at them), these people on the radio were attacking more people than just this basketball player.

Beef Supreme · 12-13-2012, 09:43 AM

I can't believe people are actually having a serious conversation about this. If you're gonna cut off your balls and try to play for the girls sports team, expect a little ****ing ridicule.

Crush · 12-13-2012, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

Yeah, and breast cancer survivors can't handle being called titless, and testicular cancer survivors dislike being called 'uno'.

GEEZ! Get a sense of humor about it!!!

Dumbass.

People have enough problems without assholes like you piling on and then pretending it's a form of honesty.

You are seriously comparing cancer victims to a guy that voluntarily cut his nuts off? Seriously, **** you.

lcarus · 12-13-2012, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by big nasty kcnut

finkle is ehinhorn ehinhorn is finkle. ehinhorn is a man.

Her gun was digging into my hip....

**loochy** · 12-13-2012, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet

I can't believe people are actually having a serious conversation about this. If you're gonna cut off your balls and try to play for the girls sports team, expect a little ****ing ridicule.

Yeah, that's pretty much right on.

If you do something that makes you stick out in an exceptionally odd and comical manner, you're going to get it and you know it. Right or wrong or whatever, it's going to happen.

**Saul Good** · 12-13-2012, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet

I can't believe people are actually having a serious conversation about this. If you're gonna cut off your balls and try to play for the girls sports team, expect a little ****ing ridicule.

What about others who don't play on a sports team? There's no such thing as only calling one person a n****r.

Chief Gump · 12-13-2012, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by big nasty kcnut

finkle is ehinhorn ehinhorn is finkle. ehinhorn is a man.

**loochy** · 12-13-2012, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

What about others who don't play on a sports team? There's no such thing as only calling one person a n****r.

well sure there is

Valiant · 12-13-2012, 10:44 AM

Baylor girls added a man. Now every other team is trying it.

**loochy** · 12-13-2012, 10:53 AM

Gabrielle Ludwig should have changed her name to MANdy

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