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Old 12-14-2012, 03:45 PM   #1
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If the Chiefs have the #1 overall pick, and the Bills come along and want to trade up to the Chiefs slot, would you do it?

The Chiefs could possibly still get a QB with Bills pick. But just knowing that they could receive a ton from the Bills, hmmmm....something to think about.

I'm with the majority that they should draft a QB, but, I don't think that you have to go 1st overall to get one. I still think they should draft one in the 1st regardless though.

I just don't feel as if drafting a QB is going to be the answer overnight. This team needs more than just a QB, if they can still get a ton of picks and a QB then the chances of addressing the holes on this team improve far more significantly.

It's something to think about. Having the 1st overall pick is almost like a luxury in this case.

I'm sure the Rams are much happier with Bradford, Brockers, Jenkins and co. instead of RGIII.
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:46 PM   #2
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I'm sure the Rams are much happier with Bradford, Brockers, Jenkins and co. instead of RGIII.
Exactly.
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:48 PM   #3
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I'm sure the Rams are much happier with Bradford, Brockers, Jenkins and co. instead of RGIII.
RGIII is a special player.

How do we know if Geno is that good?

Is there an elite QB prospect in this draft?
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:51 PM   #4
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RGIII is a special player.

How do we know if Geno is that good?

Is there an elite QB prospect in this draft?
There is no Luck. There rarely if ever is. That said, it's time to take the shot and Geno is the Top Man for the gig.
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:52 PM   #5
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RGIII is a special player.

How do we know if Geno is that good?

Is there an elite QB prospect in this draft?
Nobody thought RGIII was anything special this time last year.

You never "know" anything as there is always risk with any player no matter what someone says.
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:53 PM   #6
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Nobody thought RGIII was anything special this time last year.
Other than that whole winning the Heisman thing. let's not rewrite history.
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:55 PM   #7
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Other than that whole winning the Heisman thing. let's not rewrite history.
Because everyone expects Heisman winning QB's to be special in the NFL. Go back and check mock drafts from this time last year. Hell there was a debate on if we should take him at 11 if he was there.

You heard all the usual crap. "He's a running QB." "He plays in the spread." "The offense and/or WR's are the reason for his numbers".

Let's not rewrite history that him and Luck were 1A and 1B all season long.
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Old 12-14-2012, 04:19 PM   #8
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Because everyone expects Heisman winning QB's to be special in the NFL. Go back and check mock drafts from this time last year. Hell there was a debate on if we should take him at 11 if he was there.

You heard all the usual crap. "He's a running QB." "He plays in the spread." "The offense and/or WR's are the reason for his numbers".

Let's not rewrite history that him and Luck were 1A and 1B all season long.
I'm just saying that "Nobody thought RGIII was anything special this time last year" is bullshit.
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Old 12-14-2012, 04:22 PM   #9
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I'm just saying that "Nobody thought RGIII was anything special this time last year" is bullshit.
I guess it depends on what you mean by special. Nobody was saying he would do in the NFL what he is doing right now for sure.
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Old 12-14-2012, 07:54 PM   #10
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I'm just saying that "Nobody thought RGIII was anything special this time last year" is bullshit.
In his 1st December mock draft, Todd McShay had RG3 going THIRTY SECOND.

The "nobody thought RG3 was anything special this time last year" is ABSOLUTELY true when it comes to the pundits.

Now if you're talking about this and other message boards, lots of people thought he was special.

But Kiper, McShay, and all these idiots saying there's no QB worth a 1st round pick this year had RG3 at the BOTTOM of their first round this time last year.
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As much as I want the QB, I want a the head coach just as bad.

RGIII is great, and I have to attribute some of his successes to Shanny.

No way do I see him having that type if success here especially with this coaching staff and management, can't see it.
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As much as I want the QB, I want a the head coach just as bad.

RGIII is great, and I have to attribute some of his successes to Shanny.

No way do I see him having that type if success here especially with this coaching staff and management, can't see it.
This I'll concede. Our coaching staff( along with management, ownership, hot dog vendors etc.)is absolute dogshit and twice as useless.
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Old 12-14-2012, 04:00 PM   #13
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As much as I want the QB, I want a the head coach just as bad.

RGIII is great, and I have to attribute some of his successes to Shanny.

No way do I see him having that type if success here especially with this coaching staff and management, can't see it.
Tony Dungy won a Super Bowl. Lovie Smith and Bill Callahan coached in Super Bowls.

Without the QB, coaching means nothing.

And with the RIGHT QB, even mediocre coaches can win it all.
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:55 PM   #14
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RGIII is a special player.

How do we know if Geno is that good?

Is there an elite QB prospect in this draft?
Well, if you haven ability at all in evaluating QBs, it would seem fairly easy to see that Geno is a better prospect and more complete of a passer than Ryan, Stafford, Bradford, Tannehill Weeden, Wilson, Newton, Flacco, etc.

How do "we" know if Geno is that good? Well, why don't you start by watching some ****ing games. Youtube is a wonderful free entity that might help you out there.

I don't know how you define "elite QB prospect" but he's the best prospect not named RG3 or Luck to come out in quite some time. So, for me, he's elite.
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Well, if you haven ability at all in evaluating QBs, it would seem fairly easy to see that Geno is a better prospect and more complete of a passer than Ryan, Stafford, Bradford, Tannehill Weeden, Wilson, Newton, Flacco, etc.

How do "we" know if Geno is that good? Well, why don't you start by watching some ****ing games. Youtube is a wonderful free entity that might help you out there.

I don't know how you define "elite QB prospect" but he's the best prospect not named RG3 or Luck to come out in quite some time. So, for me, he's elite.
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