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Old 01-05-2013, 08:37 AM   #1
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You need to hope like hell Tyler Wilson drops to your spot and they snatch him up. I won't say shit about your QB situation if that happens. Pryor won't amount to squat. You don't have a legit longterm solution at QB, you are toast in today's NFL.
You are getting ready to see why Madden and many in the NFL suggested Reggie become our GM... The NFL is about finding the gems in the draft not the first rounders..

You just worry about Cheapo Clark and the Cheaps , we got this shit covered in Raiderland
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Old 01-05-2013, 09:25 AM   #2
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You are getting ready to see why Madden and many in the NFL suggested Reggie become our GM... The NFL is about finding the gems in the draft not the first rounders..

You just worry about Cheapo Clark and the Cheaps , we got this shit covered in Raiderland
WTF does this mean? You guys sold the damn barn for Carson Palmer
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Old 01-05-2013, 09:40 AM   #3
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WTF does this mean? You guys sold the damn barn for Carson Palmer
You guys wouldn't even pay KY Orton with a team full of shit, That's the main reason you guys haven't sniffed a SB since ****ing Gatorade was invented. The Hunts are CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP, and they will remain CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP.
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Old 01-05-2013, 09:42 AM   #4
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You guys wouldn't even pay KY Orton with a team full of shit, That's the main reason you guys haven't sniffed a SB since ****ing Gatorade was invented. The Hunts are CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP, and they will remain CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP.
We wouldn't pay him or he, like Manning, wanted no part of the fiasco that were the Pioli Chief's?
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Old 01-05-2013, 09:46 AM   #5
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We wouldn't pay him or he, like Manning, wanted no part of the fiasco that were the Pioli Chief's?
Not a chance and you know damn well the Hunts aren't willing to pay the kind of money to bring a FA Like Manning in. It was just a smoke screen to keep you guys in the seats and to make you think he tried... One team held all the cards and cap room for Manning and that was the Chiefs...

Imagine what that 30 million in cap room could have done to replace the shit at QB you have this year?
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Old 01-05-2013, 09:50 AM   #6
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Not a chance and you know damn well the Hunts aren't willing to pay the kind of money to bring a FA Like Manning in. It was just a smoke screen to keep you guys in the seats and to make you think he tried... One team held all the cards and cap room for Manning and that was the Chiefs...

Imagine what that 30 million in cap room could have done to replace the shit at QB you have this year?
Manning has all the money he needs. He's a competitor that weighed his options. Pioli's chiefs with Romeo and Daboll were probably never much of a consideration to him.
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Old 01-05-2013, 09:51 AM   #7
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Manning has all the money he needs. He's a competitor that weighed his options. Pioli's chiefs with Romeo and Daboll were probably never much of a consideration to him.
Obviously he doesn't, he risked eating babyfood for the rest of his life to grab the money....


Nobody in the NFL does it for anything except money...
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So what? The two situations are as different as night and day.

Pioli had never run an organization before. It's apparent to everyone now that Pioli was nothing more than Belichick's errand boy, and he was completely unprepared to do the job he was hired to do.

We are excited about this hire because Andy Reid has has already done this, and he's been wildly successful at it. He has proven that he can do this.

The ONLY possible concern would be the 8-8 and 4-12 records of the last two years. I heard a caller on one of the local radio stations say how much that concerned him, and he went on to say that he can't think of a single coach who has gone to another team and been successful after a couple of years like that.

I wanted to yell at the radio and tell that idiot that he obviously doesn't follow the NFL, because I can think of SIX coaches right off the top of my head who got fired after one or more bad seasons with their original teams and then went to different teams and took them (at least) to the playoffs: Bill Belichick, John Fox, Tom Coughlin, Mike Shanahan, Pete Carroll, and our very own Marty Schottenheimer. With the exception of Bellichick, all of those coaches won division titles with their original team before they got fired.

If you're looking for a parallel in Chiefs history, it isn't the hiring of Scott Pioli. It's the hiring of Marty Schottenheimer. Marty never got us to the promised land, but he took us on a helluva ride for 10 years.
10 years with 3 playoff wins, 2 that came in the same season, and no SB to show for it.

10 years closer to death without sniffing a SB.

The fact still remains, regardless of resume's, that the excitement when Scott Pioli was hired, the excitement level was the same.

I am not drawing a parallel of previous records.

I am comparing reactions.

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You guys wouldn't even pay KY Orton with a team full of shit, That's the main reason you guys haven't sniffed a SB since ****ing Gatorade was invented. The Hunts are CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP, and they will remain CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP.
That wasn't about money.

That was Scott Pioli ensuring that Matt Cassel had no real competition.
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Old 01-05-2013, 09:55 AM   #9
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10 years with 3 playoff wins, 2 that came in the same season, and no SB to show for it.

10 years closer to death without sniffing a SB.

The fact still remains, regardless of resume's, that the excitement when Scott Pioli was hired, the excitement level was the same.

I am not drawing a parallel of previous records.

I am comparing reactions.
I guess I don't understand what you're trying to accomplish here. It sounds like you've decided that nobody should ever get excited about any hire if they've ever been disappointed in the past.

If that's the way you want to look at things, I suppose that's fine for you. I just happen to think that an Andy Reid / John Dorsey combination as head coach and GM is something to get excited about. There's no guarantee that it's going to work out, but even the most pessimistic fan HAS to admit that it's a hell of a lot better combination than Romeo Crennel and Scott Pioli.
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I guess I don't understand what you're trying to accomplish here. It sounds like you've decided that nobody should ever get excited about any hire if they've ever been disappointed in the past.

If that's the way you want to look at things, I suppose that's fine for you. I just happen to think that an Andy Reid / John Dorsey combination as head coach and GM is something to get excited about. There's no guarantee that it's going to work out, but even the most pessimistic fan HAS to admit that it's a hell of a lot better combination than Romeo Crennel and Scott Pioli.
I am not excited about Andy Reid as the HC of the Chiefs, the same as I was not excited about Scott Pioli as the GM of the Chiefs when he was hired.

I am not really trying to acomplish anything here, except to show that I am not really on board.
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Old 01-05-2013, 10:06 AM   #11
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I am not excited about Andy Reid as the HC of the Chiefs, the same as I was not excited about Scott Pioli as the GM of the Chiefs when he was hired.

I am not really trying to acomplish anything here, except to show that I am not really on board.
You've never been on board.
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I am not excited about Andy Reid as the HC of the Chiefs, the same as I was not excited about Scott Pioli as the GM of the Chiefs when he was hired.

I am not really trying to acomplish anything here, except to show that I am not really on board.
Your are not alone with this feeling compadre.
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I guess I don't understand what you're trying to accomplish here. It sounds like you've decided that nobody should ever get excited about any hire if they've ever been disappointed in the past.

If that's the way you want to look at things, I suppose that's fine for you. I just happen to think that an Andy Reid / John Dorsey combination as head coach and GM is something to get excited about. There's no guarantee that it's going to work out, but even the most pessimistic fan HAS to admit that it's a hell of a lot better combination than Romeo Crennel and Scott Pioli.
The problem is when fans get over-excited, they let things slide. Just as we, myself not just included (maybe especially), did with Pioli. I'm optimistic about Reid. I'm also not going to kid myself and pretend the red flags aren't there, both in what he did in Philly and what KC might do to coddle him.
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The problem is when fans get over-excited, they let things slide. Just as we, myself not just included (maybe especially), did with Pioli. I'm optimistic about Reid. I'm also not going to kid myself and pretend the red flags aren't there, both in what he did in Philly and what KC might do to coddle him.
From the looks of the QB poll thread if the chiefs don't go after a QB in the 1st round the over-excited expectations will turn into all out rebellion before the first snap of training camp.

There might even be a banner flying around St. Joe.
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We just demoted the GM position to the HC's man-servant.

His job is to do the will of the HC.

And the HC we just hired has no fear of spending money for people he wants. He went out and grabbed every goodie in free agency a few years ago and built the "dream team."

Clark didn't hire this guy to not spend money...
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