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Old 01-13-2013, 03:35 PM   #1
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Only way I am okay with letting Albert walk....
There are a lot of ways I am ok with letting Albert walk.. BUT you don't let an above average (barely) LT walk unless his back is going to be a concern or he is demanding top 5 money.

Sparano did draft Jake Long... and Long has struggled in Miami's new scheme.. and he is due a crap load of money making Martin a MUCH cheaper option for them. I wonder if we could get him for something as low as a 3rd rounder.
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Old 01-13-2013, 03:47 PM   #2
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There are a lot of ways I am ok with letting Albert walk.. BUT you don't let an above average (barely) LT walk unless his back is going to be a concern or he is demanding top 5 money.

Sparano did draft Jake Long... and Long has struggled in Miami's new scheme.. and he is due a crap load of money making Martin a MUCH cheaper option for them. I wonder if we could get him for something as low as a 3rd rounder.
I may be wrong here, but isn't Long a free agent this year?

One thing I am sure of, though, Long is as overrated at LT as any in the last 20 years.
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Old 01-13-2013, 03:49 PM   #3
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I may be wrong here, but isn't Long a free agent this year?

One thing I am sure of, though, Long is as overrated at LT as any in the last 20 years.
Yeah he's a FA.
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Old 01-13-2013, 03:55 PM   #4
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I may be wrong here, but isn't Long a free agent this year?

One thing I am sure of, though, Long is as overrated at LT as any in the last 20 years.
Yes he will be a free agent but I can see Miami tagging him. I'd love to get him without giving up anything but I doubt the rest of the league is as pigheadedly moronic about judging Long as you are.

Long would be a MASSIVE upgrade over Albert even in a ZBS which doesn't play to his strengths in the least.

Of course he has been battling injuries all year so (just like Albert) I'd want to be certain that isn't going to be an ongoing concern.

When it comes to Jake Long you really are a complete dumbass and I hope we sign him just to piss you off.
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Old 01-13-2013, 03:58 PM   #5
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Yes he will be a free agent but I can see Miami tagging him. I'd love to get him without giving up anything but I doubt the rest of the league is as pigheadedly moronic about judging Long as you are.

Long would be a MASSIVE upgrade over Albert even in a ZBS which doesn't play to his strengths in the least.

Of course he has been battling injuries all year so (just like Albert) I'd want to be certain that isn't going to be an ongoing concern.

When it comes to Jake Long you really are a complete dumbass and I hope we sign him just to piss you off.
Sorry Austin, I am not pigheadedly moronic about Long.

He is a good, but not great, LT that is at best, a marginal upgrade to Albert, and I think Albert is still growing, while Long is pretty much at his ceiling.
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:05 PM   #6
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Sorry Austin, I am not pigheadedly moronic about Long.

He is a good, but not great, LT that is at best, a marginal upgrade to Albert, and I think Albert is still growing, while Long is pretty much at his ceiling.
He is great but I do agree that the upgrade isn't worth the money if we use a zone blocking scheme.
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He is great


You are a joke with this Long stuff. Great players don't have a season like he had this year.
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Long would be a MASSIVE upgrade over Albert


Long gave up 4 sacks last season in only 745 snaps. He also had more penalties than Albert.

You can't blame that on scheme.

He is not better than Albert. Not by a long shot.
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Long gave up 4 sacks last season in only 745 snaps. He also had more penalties than Albert.

You can't blame that on scheme.

He is not better than Albert. Not by a long shot.
HAHAHAHAHAHA. NO ONE except complete morons and Chiefs homers think this. This statement alone proves that you have no clue.
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HAHAHAHAHAHA. NO ONE except complete morons and Chiefs homers think this. This statement alone proves that you have no clue.
THIS... statement is garbage.
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I may be wrong here, but isn't Long a free agent this year?

One thing I am sure of, though, Long is as overrated at LT as any in the last 20 years.
There's a reason he's going to hit the open market, too.

Damaged goods.
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There's a reason he's going to hit the open market, too.

Damaged goods.
^ This. There are two positions that NEVER hit the open market unless there are issues with them. Franchise QBs and Franchise LTs. If Long is elite then he is a franchise LT and if the Dolphins are willing to let him walk then that says a ton about him.
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^ This. There are two positions that NEVER hit the open market unless there are issues with them. Franchise QBs and Franchise LTs. If Long is elite then he is a franchise LT and if the Dolphins are willing to let him walk then that says a ton about him.
Actually if they let him walk it's because they have a RT who filled in at LT and did a fantastic job (Martin) and Long is due big money. A team with as many holes as The Dolphins have can't afford to carry two quality LTs. Period.
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I may be wrong here, but isn't Long a free agent this year?

One thing I am sure of, though, Long is as overrated at LT as any in the last 20 years.
He completely manhandled Tamba Hali like a little doll.
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He completely manhandled Tamba Hali like a little doll.
And Hali has owned Ryan Clady.

Sometimes it just about how individuals match up with each other.

Hali has a nice initial burst, but he's more about power than speed, so he owns Clady, while Long is more physical, so he struggles against him.

There are, and have been, very few players that match up with both speed and power on either side.

Albert is still a work in progress, but has the physical attributes to eventually be that type of player.

Long doesn't.
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