Tony Sparano scheduled to interview Monday for OLine Job

[milkman]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

Because THEY know what the play called for? How the **** is this not evident? Yes, on many plays you can guess and be right about things... on many others you simply can't without knowing the playbook and blocking assignments.

In pass protection, it's pretty easy to pick out who is assigned to block who.

It isn't rocket science.

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by milkman

In pass protection, it's pretty easy to pick out who is assigned to block who.

It isn't rocket science.

Often it is. Sometimes it isn't. Depends on the play and the complexity of the blocking scheme. My point being, the ONLY people who can accurately create a metric for a given offensive line are the people inside that organization who know what was called and what the responsibilities were. Otherwise you are guessing. Most of those guesses will probably be right, but they are still guesses. If you look at an organization like PFF and how they handle their guesses you can see just how unscientific it really is.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

Often it is. Sometimes it isn't. Depends on the play and the complexity of the blocking scheme. My point being, the ONLY people who can accurately create a metric for a given offensive line are the people inside that organization who know what was called and what the responsibilities were. Otherwise you are guessing. Most of those guesses will probably be right, but they are still guesses. If you look at an organization like PFF and how they handle their guesses you can see just how unscientific it really is.

NOBODY KNOWS HOW MANY SACKS ANYONE GIVES UP! IMPOSSIBLE TO TELL!!!

THEREFORE ALL OPINIONS ARE FORFEIT!

WE CANNOT TELL IF ANYONE IS BETTER THAN ANYONE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING.

[RunKC]

And I really hope Branden Albert's back problems are minor. It would ****ing suck ass if Albert's back problems turned into a problem like Jared Gaither's.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

Often it is. Sometimes it isn't. Depends on the play and the complexity of the blocking scheme. My point being, the ONLY people who can accurately create a metric for a given offensive line are the people inside that organization who know what was called and what the responsibilities were. Otherwise you are guessing. Most of those guesses will probably be right, but they are still guesses. If you look at an organization like PFF and how they handle their guesses you can see just how unscientific it really is.

I've seen a couple of plays here and there where I question whether the OT had an assignment or perhaps it was a RB or TE.

But those are plays where there are just absolute whiffs, and it looks like there was confusion.

But when a LT engages with a DE or a LB and just gets beat, there are no guesses.

It's right there in front of your eyes.

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by milkman

I've seen a couple of plays here and there where I question whether the OT had an assignment or perhaps it was a RB or TE.

But those are plays where there are just absolute whiffs, and it looks like there was confusion.

But when a LT engages with a DE or a LB and just gets beat, there are no guesses.

It's right there in front of your eyes.

What if he is supposed to engage then break off? What if it's a situation like the Redskins pulled on Dallas where half the time they didn't even try to block Ware using misdirection instead? I agree that MOST of the time you can guess correctly but when you are talking about such a low percentage number (sacks allowed) even a few wrong guesses and those figures skew massively.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

What if he is supposed to engage then break off? What if it's a situation like the Redskins pulled on Dallas where half the time they didn't even try to block Ware using misdirection instead? I agree that MOST of the time you can guess correctly but when you are talking about such a low percentage number (sacks allowed) even a few wrong guesses and those figures skew massively.

I think you are trying to make sound far more difficult than it is just to make your boy look better.

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by milkman

I think you are trying to make sound far more difficult than it is just to make your boy look better.

No, my intent is to show that people like GoCgiefs who trout out PFFs numbers on this have no clue. This has nothing to do with Long, I honestly have no clue what his numbers on PFF are.

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by milkman

It's right there in front of your eyes.

BTW I trust someone like you who watches the game and makes their own determinations far far more than I trust someone like GoChiefs who is clueless and relies on PFFs specious numbers. (Except on Jake Long, I don't trust you on Jake Long.)

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

BTW I trust someone like you who watches the game and makes their own determinations far far more than I trust someone like GoChiefs who is clueless and relies on PFFs specious numbers. (Except on Jake Long, I don't trust you on Jake Long.)

Dude, I already told you PFF only confirms my own observations.

Knock this shit off. You aren't smarter than everyone else here.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

BTW I trust someone like you who watches the game and makes their own determinations far far more than I trust someone like GoChiefs who is clueless and relies on PFFs specious numbers. (Except on Jake Long, I don't trust you on Jake Long.)

I say you and I agree to disagree on this one, since we neither trust each other on this specific subject.