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Old 01-17-2013, 09:44 PM   #1
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Yep right after he forced Horton out
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You can spin it any way you want. The Bowles hire is 100% on Arians. It's been reported for days that Arians practically promised the role to him. The Bowles hiring is a terrible hire and that's all on Arians.

Hope they enjoy Parcells 2-gap.
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Old 01-17-2013, 09:51 PM   #2
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You can spin it any way you want. The Bowles hire is 100% on Arians. It's been reported for days that Arians practically promised the role to him. The Bowles hiring is a terrible hire and that's all on Arians.

Hope they enjoy Parcells 2-gap.
No spin there idiot.

HORTON WAS NOT GOING TO STAY IF HE DIDN'T GET THE HAD COACH JOB. NEVER. NOT EVER. HE WAS GOING TO LEAVE.

Had nothing to do with Arians, or anyone else that would have gotten the job.
Saying he was forced out by Arians is stupid and dishonest
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Old 01-17-2013, 09:57 PM   #3
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No spin there idiot.

HORTON WAS NOT GOING TO STAY IF HE DIDN'T GET THE HAD COACH JOB. NEVER. NOT EVER. HE WAS GOING TO LEAVE.

Had nothing to do with Arians, or anyone else that would have gotten the job.
Saying he was forced out by Arians is stupid and dishonest
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How does that work since he was under contract? You really think Horton would have just not came into work?
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Old 01-17-2013, 09:59 PM   #4
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How does that work since he was under contract? You really think Horton would have just not came into work?
do you think a team would make a guy stay that wouldn't want to be there after passing him over and starting a new regime?

Yeah....no
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Old 01-17-2013, 10:02 PM   #5
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do you think a team would make a guy stay that wouldn't want to be there after passing him over and starting a new regime?

Yeah....no
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Kinda like how Zorn didn't want to be here this year, but we made him. Yeah, you're reeruned.
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Old 01-17-2013, 10:04 PM   #6
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Kinda like how Zorn didn't want to be here this year, but we made him. Yeah, you're reeruned.
Got a link to that coming from him?


Horton had said he wouldn't be back if they didn't hire him as hc.

**** yourself, little bitch
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Old 01-17-2013, 10:13 PM   #7
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No spin there idiot.

HORTON WAS NOT GOING TO STAY IF HE DIDN'T GET THE HAD COACH JOB. NEVER. NOT EVER. HE WAS GOING TO LEAVE.

Had nothing to do with Arians, or anyone else that would have gotten the job.
Saying he was forced out by Arians is stupid and dishonest
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Regardless of the Horton decision...
Bowles is 100% Arians' guy and most of his history is in the 2-gap 3-4 we just abandoned. And Arians refuses to hire an offensive coordinator that has any kind of meaningful role in playcalling. It doesn't matter how much say he had over Horton leaving, he sure as hell didn't pick the right guy to replace him. I would call that a completely disastrous DC hire.
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Old 01-17-2013, 10:16 PM   #8
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Regardless of the Horton decision...
Bowles is 100% Arians' guy and most of his history is in the 2-gap 3-4 we just abandoned. And Arians refuses to hire an offensive coordinator that has any kind of meaningful role in playcalling. It doesn't matter how much say he had over Horton leaving, he sure as hell didn't pick the right guy to replace him. I would call that a completely disastrous DC hire.
I would agree, and we wouldn't be even talking about it had you not said he was forcing out Horton to bring in one of his idiot buddies.

That was false
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Old 01-17-2013, 10:18 PM   #9
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I would agree, and we wouldn't be even talking about it had you not said he was forcing out Horton to bring in one of his idiot buddies.

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Fair enough. I was probably wrong on that point.
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Old 01-17-2013, 10:21 PM   #10
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Look at it this way: Ray Horton probably would have been gone in the next year or two. Sutton is an experienced guy who likely won't get a HC gig.
We need consistency and hopefully he brings good results for a long time.
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Old 01-17-2013, 10:43 PM   #11
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Look at it this way: Ray Horton probably would have been gone in the next year or two. Sutton is an experienced guy who likely won't get a HC gig.
We need consistency and hopefully he brings good results for a long time.
That's what I think ultimately happened. I think Reid maybe wanted to speak to Horton, but at the end of the day he was probably looking for a veteran presence and a guy who wasn't just angling for a head coaching job next year. He probably wanted some stability there, and it looks like all of our defensive coaches are on the older side. Probably why Kiffin was at the top of his wish list...
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Old 01-18-2013, 10:21 AM   #12
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That's what I think ultimately happened. I think Reid maybe wanted to speak to Horton, but at the end of the day he was probably looking for a veteran presence and a guy who wasn't just angling for a head coaching job next year. He probably wanted some stability there, and it looks like all of our defensive coaches are on the older side. Probably why Kiffin was at the top of his wish list...
That's one hell of a spin job. So we should rather want the guy who nobody will want to hire in 2 years opposed the the guy who will be a head coach in 2 year? **** that.
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You can spin it any way you want. The Bowles hire is 100% on Arians. It's been reported for days that Arians practically promised the role to him. The Bowles hiring is a terrible hire and that's all on Arians.

Hope they enjoy Parcells 2-gap.
I was meh on the possibility of Arians as a head coach a few weeks ago. Now I view that hire as a nightmare.

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