Chiefs Albert just called 610. Wants to stay in KC - Page 43

Red Dawg · 01-22-2013, 12:33 PM

Agent is talking to Dorsey. Does not want to play guard. Health is good. For what its worth.

**RealSNR** · 01-25-2013, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

A true fan think BPA doesn't factor in need or position. If Green Bay was all about BPA and need isn't involved, why did they draft 5 or 6 straight defensive players a year after having the 32 ranked D?

How Rambozo will respond:

I can see I have angered you, so I will leave this one alone.

**BigMeatballDave** · 01-25-2013, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rambozo

I am 100% for drafting a QB. I just don't want one at #1 overall. You must be thinking of someone else.

Answer my ****ing question: What is the most important position?

O.city · 01-25-2013, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

How Rambozo will respond:

I can see I have angered you, so I will leave this one alone.

Nah, he's blocked me.

Rambozo · 01-25-2013, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Your opinion is shit. True fan is a well-established lexicon on this message board. So quit spewing your bullshit and GTFO.

Sorry dude but, I have to put you on ignore. I'm not getting anything out of your posts. No hard feelings.

Strongside · 01-25-2013, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rambozo

I have considered it. We've had one draft since the new cba and rookie cap was introduced. In that draft, we had four QBs taken in the first round. One was the greatest prospect to come out since Elway, the second would have been the first overall pick in most years, the third was pushed up about 10-20 picks, and the fourth was pushed up about one full round.

What most here are doing is looking at Tannehill. They are comparing Barkley, Smith, and Wilson to Tannehill and how he was overdrafted.

Here's the thing... Again, we have only had one draft under the new cba. I am not going to base my opinion solely on that draft. I think that is foolish.

Also, it's not just about the talent level of QBs. It's about the talent level of all the other positions too and the general strength of this class.

Again, you guys have tunnel vison and only see the QB position. The best talent in this class is not at the QB position.

I am not considering nor comparing this year's quarterbacks class to any other. I am evaluating the talent of each individual as if this were the only draft. It's foolish to compare drafts and quarterbacks because it gets you nowhere.

**BigMeatballDave** · 01-25-2013, 02:56 PM

I suggest everyone put this tool on ignore.

Sorter · 01-25-2013, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

I suggest everyone put this tool on ignore.

There's a thing for universal ignore, what's it called again?

Strongside · 01-25-2013, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

I suggest everyone put this tool on ignore.

No. He makes me feel good about myself.

Rambozo · 01-25-2013, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Strongside

I am not considering nor comparing this year's quarterbacks class to any other. I am evaluating the talent of each individual as if this were the only draft. It's foolish to compare drafts and quarterbacks because it gets you nowhere.

Good to hear. I think you are doing it right then. We just differ in opinion.

Sorter · 01-25-2013, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Strongside

No. He makes me feel good about myself.

ToxSocks · 01-25-2013, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rambozo

Now you are being irrational.

Look, like everyone else in these types of forums I am wrong sometimes. For all I know we could draft Geno #1 overall.

you can't defend the argument that you put on the table.

Can you Explain to me how replacing Albert with Joeckel improves the team more than a QB?

How does adding a 3rd pass rusher with Major health concerns improve the team more than a QB?

Are these players going to make the offense any better?

I can't figure out your reasoning.

You are aware of how bad our QB position is, right?

**BigMeatballDave** · 01-25-2013, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Strongside

No. He makes me feel good about myself.

Rasputin · 01-25-2013, 03:05 PM

Rambozo Dave has asked you this time and time again. Would you please tell us..

"What position is the most important?"

Fish · 01-25-2013, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rambozo

I have considered it. We've had one draft since the new cba and rookie cap was introduced. In that draft, we had four QBs taken in the first round. One was the greatest prospect to come out since Elway, the second would have been the first overall pick in most years, the third was pushed up about 10-20 picks, and the fourth was pushed up about one full round.

What most here are doing is looking at Tannehill. They are comparing Barkley, Smith, and Wilson to Tannehill and how he was overdrafted.

Here's the thing... Again, we have only had one draft under the new cba. I am not going to base my opinion solely on that draft. I think that is foolish.

Also, it's not just about the talent level of QBs. It's about the talent level of all the other positions too and the general strength of this class.

Again, you guys have tunnel vison and only see the QB position. The best talent in this class is not at the QB position.

We've had 2 drafts with the new CBA. But that's irrelevant. We can't base our strategy on any other year. Especially last year which featured the greatest rookie QB class in forever.

Most here aren't looking at Tannehill. He has nothing to do with this draft. All you're doing is making comparisons to other drafts, and using that to justify avoiding QB. But that's not how it works.

And I completely agree that it's not just about the talent level of the QBs. But in this draft, there aren't any other positions with standout players that could be seen as can't miss prospects.

So what we're left with is a class with no definitive standouts at any position. Since there's no standouts at any position, it lessens the allure of BPA, and puts focus on which player can best help the Chiefs' specific situation. If we look at the Chiefs, we see that they've heavily addressed the OLine over the last few drafts, and already have a well above average LT. What they don't have, is a single QB worth 2 shits.

Even though the QBs in this draft don't exhibit assurances as highly as last year's draft, it's still a guarantee that there will be one or more playoff caliber QBs from this class. Even though the risk is higher than last year with QB, the reward for getting it right completely dwarfs the reward for getting any other position right. While the risk of bust remains the same.

Fish · 01-25-2013, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rambozo

I am 100% for drafting a QB. I just don't want one at #1 overall. You must be thinking of someone else.

Then you're not actually 100% for drafting a QB.

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