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Old 02-08-2013, 12:30 PM   #1
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The point you're missing is that most aren't interested in a "normal, healthy relationship".

They believe what they're doing is just fine. It's part of their lifestyle. It's not like these women (or men) are going to suddenly "wake up" 20 years later and say "Wow, I should have gotten a "real" job" and not ****ed on film".

It's a completely different mindset.
I totally believe all of that, but what a sad and empty life they're going to have down the road.

They'll be like Randy West living all alone in his 60's, unable to get a "normal" person to take a chance on them.
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Old 02-08-2013, 12:40 PM   #2
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I totally believe all of that, but what a sad and empty life they're going to have down the road.
Eh, I think it depends. Someone like Sunny Leone, who's now producing as well as acting, is multi-millionaire and happy living the life she's chosen. Many of the girls have left the business after buying homes, nice cars, etc. and chosen to raise families.

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They'll be like Randy West living all alone in his 60's, unable to get a "normal" person to take a chance on them.
I don't know Randy West but Ron Jeremy probably wouldn't complain about his life. As I mentioned in the thread dedicated to his health, he was a happy, very nice and down to earth guy every time I'd run into him.

There are a lot of people in this world that just aren't hung up on sex. ****ing on film is no big deal to many, many people and hasn't stopped people or people in that business from having kids, being married, etc.

Porn is mainstream. There's less of a stigma involved than there was 20, 30 or 40 years ago when it was "dark" and "taboo".
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Old 02-08-2013, 01:39 PM   #3
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Eh, I think it depends. Someone like Sunny Leone, who's now producing as well as acting, is multi-millionaire and happy living the life she's chosen. Many of the girls have left the business after buying homes, nice cars, etc. and chosen to raise families.



I don't know Randy West but Ron Jeremy probably wouldn't complain about his life. As I mentioned in the thread dedicated to his health, he was a happy, very nice and down to earth guy every time I'd run into him.

There are a lot of people in this world that just aren't hung up on sex. ****ing on film is no big deal to many, many people and hasn't stopped people or people in that business from having kids, being married, etc.

Porn is mainstream. There's less of a stigma involved than there was 20, 30 or 40 years ago when it was "dark" and "taboo".
I suppose i'm layering a bit too much of my own experience into what i'm saying, i dated a girl who'd previously worked in the escort business, had made great money, taken trips all over the place etc... but she truly was damaged goods after that, totally unable to form a "normal" bond.

Her idea of what went into a loving relationship was way outta whack, she figured that as long as she was giving you all you could handle, that was enough... beyond that she was a moneygrubbing liar and cheater.

Anyway, i guess my bottom line is that i'd never again try to put something together with someone who'd worked in the sex industry in any capacity whatsoever.
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Old 02-08-2013, 01:44 PM   #4
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I suppose i'm layering a bit too much of my own experience into what i'm saying, i dated a girl who'd previously worked in the escort business, had made great money, taken trips all over the place etc... but she truly was damaged goods after that, totally unable to form a "normal" bond.

Her idea of what went into a loving relationship was way outta whack, she figured that as long as she was giving you all you could handle, that was enough... beyond that she was a moneygrubbing liar and cheater.

Anyway, i guess my bottom line is that i'd never again try to put something together with someone who'd worked in the sex industry in any capacity whatsoever.
I don't blame you. As I mentioned earlier, strippers (and from what you're describing, escorts) have a different "self-worth" than porn stars, in my experience.

These women that are "Porn Stars", like Sunny Leone, Jill Kelly, Jenna Jamison, Kimberly Kane, so on and so forth truly see themselves as "International Stars". Their movies make millions, their work is seen worldwide and in nearly every way, they truly are "Stars".

That's a different stratosphere than the chick working at the local strip club to support her kids because her Baby Daddy ran off or because she was sexually abused as a child.
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Old 02-08-2013, 01:59 PM   #5
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I don't blame you. As I mentioned earlier, strippers (and from what you're describing, escorts) have a different "self-worth" than porn stars, in my experience.

These women that are "Porn Stars", like Sunny Leone, Jill Kelly, Jenna Jamison, Kimberly Kane, so on and so forth truly see themselves as "International Stars". Their movies make millions, their work is seen worldwide and in nearly every way, they truly are "Stars".

That's a different stratosphere than the chick working at the local strip club to support her kids because her Baby Daddy ran off or because she was sexually abused as a child.
Yaeh, that previously mentioned porn doc made it very clear that many of those women are treated just like any regular movie star in many places, particularly overseas.

Its hard to imagine being in a relationship with an active one though, lol, "bye hun, i'm off to the triple penetration gangbang, dont wait up!"
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Old 02-08-2013, 02:03 PM   #6
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Its hard to imagine being in a relationship with an active one though, lol, "bye hun, i'm off to the triple penetration gangbang, dont wait up!"
I suppose. I mean, it's not for me, but either is swinging, an open marriage, so on and so forth. Yet, there are millions upon millions of people who enjoy those lifestyles, so live and let live.
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Old 02-08-2013, 06:31 PM   #7
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That's a different stratosphere than the chick working at the local strip club to support her kids because her Baby Daddy ran off or because she was sexually abused as a child.
It's a different stratosphere than 90% of the girls that do a couple videos, take a gang-bang and get thrown to the side for the next 19 yr old.

Yeah, I can totally see how the 'stars' and known girls can be happy as pigs in shit and feel that they're living full, complete lives. The confidence these women must have is amazing.

But I think the 'damaged' comments are directed towards the flash in the pan chicks that get choked while taking 3 dongs and you never see them again. Or even some of the chicks that are on like Brazzers and stuff; generally normal porn but certainly not girls that you're going to see much of in 12 months.
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Old 02-08-2013, 06:48 PM   #8
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It's a different stratosphere than 90% of the girls that do a couple videos, take a gang-bang and get thrown to the side for the next 19 yr old.

But I think the 'damaged' comments are directed towards the flash in the pan chicks that get choked while taking 3 dongs and you never see them again. Or even some of the chicks that are on like Brazzers and stuff; generally normal porn but certainly not girls that you're going to see much of in 12 months.
I guess that "technically", those girls could be referred as "Porn Stars", because they starred in a porn film, but I don't think that most people would refer to them as "stars".

Many of those women and even men you refer to are trying to make a name in the business. They haven't necessarily "arrived".
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I guess that "technically", those girls could be referred as "Porn Stars", because they starred in a porn film, but I don't think that most people would refer to them as "stars".

Many of those women and even men you refer to are trying to make a name in the business. They haven't necessarily "arrived".
I'm sure that most believe their "arrival" will come.
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But I think the 'damaged' comments are directed towards the flash in the pan chicks that get choked while taking 3 dongs


Sounds eerily similar to our experience watching Chiefs games this year.
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I totally believe all of that, but what a sad and empty life they're going to have down the road.

The only positive (and it's a big one) is that they won't base a relationship off of sex.

Good or bad they'll only stick with someone because they care about them.

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They'll be like Randy West living all alone in his 60's, unable to get a "normal" person to take a chance on them.
I've never been in porn and never dated anyone "normal."
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I totally believe all of that, but what a sad and empty life they're going to have down the road.
Eh, i think you're making an bad assumption here.
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I totally believe all of that, but what a sad and empty life they're going to have down the road.
This is attitude is just projecting "normal" values onto people who likely don't have "normal" values. While you may think a fulfilling future is having an office job, 401k, house in the burbs and 2.5 children, the people with the mindset to do porn or strip may choose death over that sort of prison. They likely relate better to people who have also lived alternative lifestyles, so don't consider that the typical mid-40s callaway polo wearing republican considers them unworthy of marriage.

People date strippers and ex-strippers all the time. That chick from "cathouse" (I think that's the name) married the head guy and is essentially in a management position of the brothel. She's also rich. (An unusual example, but an example)
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This is attitude is just projecting "normal" values onto people who likely don't have "normal" values. While you may think a fulfilling future is having an office job, 401k, house in the burbs and 2.5 children, the people with the mindset to do porn or strip may choose death over that sort of prison. They likely relate better to people who have also lived alternative lifestyles, so don't consider that the typical mid-40s callaway polo wearing republican considers them unworthy of marriage.

People date strippers and ex-strippers all the time. That chick from "cathouse" (I think that's the name) married the head guy and is essentially in a management position of the brothel. She's also rich. (An unusual example, but an example)
Truth right here.

And who are we to judge anyway? What's really 'normal'? Who is actually 'normal'?

I'd be willing to bet a lot of these chicks will go on to live happier lives than many people reading this thread right now.
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