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Old 02-19-2013, 08:52 AM   #1
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They don't get it. We'd rather take a QB and whiff than take a tackle at one, let Albert walk, and watch him lead us to no extra wins.
Drafting to please fans is a really terrible strategy.
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Old 02-19-2013, 08:55 AM   #2
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Drafting to please fans is a really terrible strategy.
...as it echos through an empty stadium...
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Old 02-19-2013, 08:58 AM   #3
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...as it echos through an empty stadium...
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Old 02-19-2013, 10:09 AM   #4
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...as it echos through an empty stadium...
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Fans don't show up for draft picks. They show up for wins.
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Old 02-19-2013, 10:15 AM   #5
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Fans don't show up for draft picks. They show up for wins.
And what makes you think the Chiefs will win games by letting Albert go and drafting Joeckel?

Or taking another DL that doesn't penetrate gaps very well?

Or drafting a passrusher when we already have two Pro Bowlers?

We could always draft Milliner, but then we're ****ing around with reaching on draft value, which is the thing you've been talking about trying to avoid.
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Old 02-19-2013, 10:23 AM   #6
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And what makes you think the Chiefs will win games by letting Albert go and drafting Joeckel?

Or taking another DL that doesn't penetrate gaps very well?

Or drafting a passrusher when we already have two Pro Bowlers?

We could always draft Milliner, but then we're ****ing around with reaching on draft value, which is the thing you've been talking about trying to avoid.
I think the Chiefs will win because Andy Reid has a long history of doing it.

And in particular, he has a long history of finding lesser known QB's that he plugs into his system to significant success. So much so, that he sells them off to the highest bidder. I love that. That plays in our favor.

It also tips the scales toward taking BPA, not QB with our #1. And if that doesn't work out this year, the odds are that in a few years, it will work out.

If AR wants Alex Smith over Geno Smith, then I'd be pretty excited to have Alex Smith playing in this system under this coach.

Now if AR wants Geno Smith over all other options, then I'll be just as excited to have him playing in this system under this coach.

Putting much stock into what fans want is just silly.
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Old 02-19-2013, 10:26 AM   #7
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And in particular, he has a long history of finding lesser known QB's that he plugs into his system to significant success.


Andy Reid picked Donovan McNabb #2 overall.

Andy Reid, without Donovan McNabb, has won exactly ZERO playoff games.

You have completely manufactured a narrative of PURE FANTASY.
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I think the Chiefs will win because Andy Reid has a long history of doing it.
I know. I agree. Andy Reid is a good coach.

You still haven't addressed my point of what the best and most valuable pick we can make at #1 is. Good coaches have to draft well, after all. And they need franchise QBs.
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Old 02-19-2013, 10:45 AM   #9
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I think the Chiefs will win because Andy Reid has a long history of doing it.

And in particular, he has a long history of finding lesser known QB's that he plugs into his system to significant success. So much so, that he sells them off to the highest bidder. I love that. That plays in our favor.
please elaborate on this success he's had with QBs not named McNabb....
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Old 02-19-2013, 10:56 AM   #10
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I think the Chiefs will win because Andy Reid has a long history of doing it.

And in particular, he has a long history of finding lesser known QB's that he plugs into his system to significant success. So much so, that he sells them off to the highest bidder. I love that. That plays in our favor.

It also tips the scales toward taking BPA, not QB with our #1. And if that doesn't work out this year, the odds are that in a few years, it will work out.

If AR wants Alex Smith over Geno Smith, then I'd be pretty excited to have Alex Smith playing in this system under this coach.

Now if AR wants Geno Smith over all other options, then I'll be just as excited to have him playing in this system under this coach.

Putting much stock into what fans want is just silly.
Its funny when people talk about "More options" because what they mean to say is "Alex Smith" since there really isn't any other options.

Matt Flynn is the other name always thrown around. Terrible.

This fanbase has battered QB syndrome.

No matter how many shit QB's they've had, they keep coming back for more. It's like a woman with an abusive boyfriend just asking to get punched in the face again.
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:21 PM   #11
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I think the Chiefs will win because Andy Reid has a long history of doing it.

And in particular, he has a long history of finding lesser known QB's that he plugs into his system to significant success. So much so, that he sells them off to the highest bidder. I love that. That plays in our favor.

It also tips the scales toward taking BPA, not QB with our #1. And if that doesn't work out this year, the odds are that in a few years, it will work out.

If AR wants Alex Smith over Geno Smith, then I'd be pretty excited to have Alex Smith playing in this system under this coach.

Now if AR wants Geno Smith over all other options, then I'll be just as excited to have him playing in this system under this coach.

Andy Reid did all of his significant winning with a quarterback he selected high in the first round of the draft. The rest haven't done jack shit for him.

Putting much stock into what fans want is just silly.
Andy Reid did all his significant winning with a quarterback he took high in the first round. the rest of them didn't win jack shit for him.
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Old 02-19-2013, 10:24 AM   #12
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Fans don't show up for draft picks. They show up for wins.
Alex Smith isn't winning shit.
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Old 02-19-2013, 10:43 AM   #13
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Alex Smith isn't winning shit.
Shenanigans.

Alex Smith was a fumbling kick returner away from a SB in 2011. When he went down in 2012 he was leading the NFL in passer efficiency and got benched for a guy that was just a hell of a lot more dynamic than Alex. Y'know what? Kaepernick's a hell of a lot more dynamic than Geno is as well.

Give Smith a good team and he can get you to 12 wins. And yes, it's absolutely possible that he could get hot like Flacco and take a team to the SB - he should have in 2011.

I'm getting really tired of people that feel that have to slam Alex Smith to justify Geno Smith. All that does is diminish Geno. Alex Smith would be as good as Trent Green was in KC under Andy Reid, I honestly believe that. Geno has the upside to be the top 10 guy that Alex doesn't, but that doesn't mean Alex is crap.
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Old 02-19-2013, 10:57 AM   #14
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Shenanigans.

Alex Smith was a fumbling kick returner away from a SB in 2011. When he went down in 2012 he was leading the NFL in passer efficiency and got benched for a guy that was just a hell of a lot more dynamic than Alex. Y'know what? Kaepernick's a hell of a lot more dynamic than Geno is as well.

Give Smith a good team and he can get you to 12 wins. And yes, it's absolutely possible that he could get hot like Flacco and take a team to the SB - he should have in 2011.

I'm getting really tired of people that feel that have to slam Alex Smith to justify Geno Smith. All that does is diminish Geno. Alex Smith would be as good as Trent Green was in KC under Andy Reid, I honestly believe that. Geno has the upside to be the top 10 guy that Alex doesn't, but that doesn't mean Alex is crap.
I'm not slamming Alex Smith to justify Geno Smith.

I'm slamming Alex Smith because he DESERVES IT.

His brief 20-game stint under Harbaugh is the EXCEPTION for his career, not the rule.

There is zero reason, other than blind faith, to believe he'll recreate 2011-2012 once he's removed from the Harbaugh environment.
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Shenanigans.

Alex Smith was a fumbling kick returner away from a SB in 2011. When he went down in 2012 he was leading the NFL in passer efficiency and got benched for a guy that was just a hell of a lot more dynamic than Alex. Y'know what? Kaepernick's a hell of a lot more dynamic than Geno is as well.

Give Smith a good team and he can get you to 12 wins. And yes, it's absolutely possible that he could get hot like Flacco and take a team to the SB - he should have in 2011.

I'm getting really tired of people that feel that have to slam Alex Smith to justify Geno Smith. All that does is diminish Geno. Alex Smith would be as good as Trent Green was in KC under Andy Reid, I honestly believe that. Geno has the upside to be the top 10 guy that Alex doesn't, but that doesn't mean Alex is crap.
Please refresh my memory, what did Trent Green win again?
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