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Old 02-22-2013, 09:04 AM   #1
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Nobody develops quarterbacks better than Andy Reid,” Polian said. “So rest assured, you’ve got the right guy. Whatever decision he makes will be the right one. He’ll find a quarterback. It doesn’t need to be the first guy in the draft.”
Other than to stay away from quarterbacks, Polian had no advice for the Chiefs with the first pick.
I keep seeing this and I keep thinking "who has he REALLY developed"?

Kevin Kolb played so good they traded him. He resurrected Vick for all of 1 year. Foles has yet to really prove anything. He's always had ADEQUATE QB play.

But the ONLY ELITE QB he's ever coached is the guy he picked #2 overall.

Don't get me wrong, I like Andy Reid. A LOT actually.

But this idea that he's a QB guru is WAY overblown.
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:09 AM   #2
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I keep seeing this and I keep thinking "who has he REALLY developed"?

Kevin Kolb played so good they traded him. He resurrected Vick for all of 1 year. Foles has yet to really prove anything. He's always had ADEQUATE QB play.

But the ONLY ELITE QB he's ever coached is the guy he picked #2 overall.

Don't get me wrong, I like Andy Reid. A LOT actually.

But this idea that he's a QB guru is WAY overblown.
I don't see how you don't think he developed Kolb...He coached up Kolb to play well in his system, so much that teams wanted to trade for him. With Vick playing as well as he was and the organization committing so much money to him, it was a no brainer to trade him as his contract would expire at the end of the year.

Kolb and Vick both had their best seasons under Reid. I think that says something about him.
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:17 AM   #3
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I don't see how you don't think he developed Kolb...He coached up Kolb to play well in his system, so much that teams wanted to trade for him. With Vick playing as well as he was and the organization committing so much money to him, it was a no brainer to trade him as his contract would expire at the end of the year.

Kolb and Vick both had their best seasons under Reid. I think that says something about him.
If he REALLY coached up Kolb, he wouldn't have traded him. You don't trade franchise QBs. Andy "QB guru" Reid DIDN'T THINK KOLB WAS GOOD ENOUGH.

Period, end of story.
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:26 AM   #4
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If he REALLY coached up Kolb, he wouldn't have traded him. You don't trade franchise QBs. Andy "QB guru" Reid DIDN'T THINK KOLB WAS GOOD ENOUGH.

Period, end of story.
It's not end of story. He coached up Kolb, and then Kolb gets hurt. Vick lights it up, they pay him to be the franchise QB. Then they trade Kolb b/c they can't afford 2 franchise QBs.
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:27 AM   #5
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It's not end of story. He coached up Kolb, and then Kolb gets hurt. Vick lights it up, they pay him to be the franchise QB. Then they trade Kolb b/c they can't afford 2 franchise QBs.
Kolb was never a franchise QB.
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Kolb was never a franchise QB.
Exactly. Kolb was playing like shit in that first game. after the McNabb trade. Reid should consider himself very lucky that he got injured so quickly and Vick came in.
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Kolb was never a franchise QB.
That's not true at all. He was the future of the Eagles in 2010. He started the first game and got hurt. Vick played weeks 2-4 and then they brought Kolb back in. He started until week 9, when he w againas then injured. Week 10 was the week Vick absolutely destroyed the Redskins, and then Vick never let go of the job.

Spare me the "he was never a franchise QB" because that was exactly what Philly had planned for him. He just got unlucky with injuries and the next guy up made the most of his opportunity. Just like Alex Smith/Kaepernick.
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That's not true at all. He was the future of the Eagles in 2010. He started the first game and got hurt. Vick played weeks 2-4 and then they brought Kolb back in. He started until week 9, when he w againas then injured. Week 10 was the week Vick absolutely destroyed the Redskins, and then Vick never let go of the job.

Spare me the "he was never a franchise QB" because that was exactly what Philly had planned for him. He just got unlucky with injuries and the next guy up made the most of his opportunity. Just like Alex Smith/Kaepernick.
Vick never let go of the job because Kolb couldn't take it for his own.

It isn't AT ALL like Alex Smith/Kaepernick. Kolb has literally NOTHING to offer next to Colin Kaepernick.

Dumb, dumb, dumb.
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I don't see how you don't think he developed Kolb...He coached up Kolb to play well in his system, so much that teams wanted to trade for him. With Vick playing as well as he was and the organization committing so much money to him, it was a no brainer to trade him as his contract would expire at the end of the year.

Kolb and Vick both had their best seasons under Reid. I think that says something about him.
NO one disputes the fact that Reid can coach up QBs. Hes definately proven that.

BUt for "sustained" success over the long haul, he had a top 3 drafted QB prospect. All those other guys were temporary solutions.
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I keep seeing this and I keep thinking "who has he REALLY developed"?

Kevin Kolb played so good they traded him. He resurrected Vick for all of 1 year. Foles has yet to really prove anything. He's always had ADEQUATE QB play.

But the ONLY ELITE QB he's ever coached is the guy he picked #2 overall.

Don't get me wrong, I like Andy Reid. A LOT actually.

But this idea that he's a QB guru is WAY overblown.
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he's good at flipping lower round QBs...which is a great thing and I hope he does that here, but....

he went to a super bowl with a first round QB...end of story
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he's good at flipping lower round QBs...which is a great thing and I hope he does that here, but....

he went to a super bowl with a first round QB...end of story
It's too funny. They're playing the Pioli/Andy Reid segment on the radio right now.

Pioli is trying to praise Andy about how he has developed QBs and he starts the sentence with "Yeah, he had Donovan but..."

He totally tried to completely ignore the fact that Andy Reid drafted a QB at #2 overall.
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