Chiefs Poilian says no QB worthy of #1. Chiefs can find one later - Page 15

Deberg_1990 · 02-22-2013, 08:37 AM

Former Colts GM Polian says Chiefs can find a QB in the draft

— In Bill Polian’s long career as an NFL general manager, his team had the number-one pick in the draft just once. That was in 1998, when he was with Indianapolis, and the Colts that year selected a quarterback, Peyton Manning.

That worked out well for Polian and the Colts. But Polian said he doesn’t think the Chiefs should draft a quarterback with this year’s first pick, even though they would like an upgrade over Matt Cassel. Like many assessing this year’s draft, Polian said there’s not a quarterback worthy of being the number-one selection.

“Just because there’s not a quarterback that everybody now doesn’t think is worth the number-one pick doesn’t mean you can’t get a quarterback,” Polian said. “Nobody thought Russell Wilson was worth a third-round pick except a couple of us. He turned out to be a pretty good quarterback.

“You always go for the best player. It’s foolish to go for need and (Chiefs coach Andy Reid) won’t do that.”

While Reid coached in Philadelphia, the Eagles at least a couple of times found quarterbacks after the first round who eventually became starters, including Kevin Kolb and Nick Foles.

“Nobody develops quarterbacks better than Andy Reid,” Polian said. “So rest assured, you’ve got the right guy. Whatever decision he makes will be the right one. He’ll find a quarterback. It doesn’t need to be the first guy in the draft.”
Other than to stay away from quarterbacks, Polian had no advice for the Chiefs with the first pick.

“Ask Andy,” he said. “They know their personnel far better than I do and they know what they need.”

http://www.kansascity.com/2013/02/21...-colts-gm.html

tony77 · 02-22-2013, 02:43 PM

And snr . How the **** do you know what they are thinking?

**RealSNR** · 02-22-2013, 02:50 PM

Reid and Dorsey haven't had careers in the NFL as long as they have by picking out Manuels and Nassibs as the best in their class.

I don't know what they're thinking, but I can infer they're not completely inept at their jobs based on what they've done.

By the same token, I can point to the fact that they are still alive as evidence that they aren't dumb enough to lick broken glass on the sidewalk or stick their dicks in light sockets.

**RealSNR** · 02-22-2013, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tony77

Oh very mature idiot ripping someone for a view that is not yours. Your so ****in stupid! I say yes E.J. is better than geno anyday . So put that in your pipe and smoke it asshole.

1. You're just saying that because you're a mindless fool, angry at all the normal people who point and laugh at you every day.

2. If I'm wrong and you DO actually believe that, how does it taste to lick broken glass on the sidewalk? I've never tried it myself.

Chiefnj2 · 02-22-2013, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Ideally, the Chiefs fall in love with a QB and take him #1 overall. If they don't, the second best option IMO is to take him at #34.

What would really be disheartening to me, in this particular draft, is for the Chiefs to pass on a QB #1 overall, then trade up into the first round to draft a QB. At that point, you're wasting precious resources that can be used for other areas of need (S, ILB, CB, WR, etc.).

If a guy is good enough at #20, take him at #1. Don't waste a #2 and #4 to get him at 20. That's just plain dumb.

Depends on what the cost is to move up at the end of the first to grab that qb

**the Talking Can** · 02-22-2013, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Reid and Dorsey haven't had careers in the NFL as long as they have by picking out Manuels and Nassibs as the best in their class.

I don't know what they're thinking, but I can infer they're not completely inept at their jobs based on what they've done.

By the same token, I can point to the fact that they are still alive as evidence that they aren't dumb enough to lick broken glass on the sidewalk or stick their dicks in light sockets.

BWillie · 02-22-2013, 03:01 PM

And he's totally right. Tons and tons of QB's around the same talent level. Only a fool would draft a QB with a #1 pick when you can get one just as good, maybe better in the second round. You play the hand you are given, and in this case, this draft sucks donkey balls for QBs. It's just the Chiefs luck, deal with it or whine about it & convince yourself that Geno Smith is the next Peyton Manning. I'd prefer to just deal with it logically and make the best choices on value that you can.

htismaqe · 02-22-2013, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Depends on what the cost is to move up at the end of the first to grab that qb

It's going to cost at least one draft pick too much.

htismaqe · 02-22-2013, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

And he's totally right. Tons and tons of QB's around the same talent level.

That's an opinion.

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Originally Posted by BWillie

Only a fool would draft a QB with a #1 pick when you can get one just as good, maybe better in the second round.

And this is a myth.

When the smoke clears, 1 or 2 QBs will be consensus top 10 picks and this whole ridiculous conversation will be over.

Bewbies · 02-22-2013, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

And he's totally right. Tons and tons of QB's around the same talent level. Only a fool would draft a QB with a #1 pick when you can get one just as good, maybe better in the second round. You play the hand you are given, and in this case, this draft sucks donkey balls for QBs. It's just the Chiefs luck, deal with it or whine about it & convince yourself that Geno Smith is the next Peyton Manning. I'd prefer to just deal with it logically and make the best choices on value that you can.

The smartest people in the world think the guy that takes the 3rd, 4th or 5th option will end up with the best.

The #1 pick in the NFL draft is used to take the best QB available. Unless your coach and GM don't want to keep their jobs, like Miami and Houston.

The #2 pick is where one goes after the best player available.

-King- · 02-22-2013, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

And he's totally right. Tons and tons of QB's around the same talent level. Only a fool would draft a QB with a #1 pick when you can get one just as good, maybe better in the second round. You play the hand you are given, and in this case, this draft sucks donkey balls for QBs. It's just the Chiefs luck, deal with it or whine about it & convince yourself that Geno Smith is the next Peyton Manning. I'd prefer to just deal with it logically and make the best choices on value that you can.

**DeezNutz** · 02-22-2013, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

It's going to cost at least one draft pick too much.

Exactly. I've been beating this drum for the last month, at least.

No trades back into the first. If they do this, Reid and Dorsey show that they are truly dumb as ****, and we're going to need to fall ass backwards into success. In other words, we'll need to hope for The Patriot Way.

OrtonsPiercedTaint · 02-22-2013, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

He very well could bust. If it happens, you get back on the horse and draft another 1st round QB in a few years. You do it again and again until you get it right.

I'm not going to lie. I'd blow a nut in that horse

Sorter · 02-22-2013, 03:44 PM

Polian just said Landry Jones was his guy.

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**RealSNR** · 02-22-2013, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter

Polian just said Landry Jones was his guy.

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HOW DO U NO HES NOT TEH BEST QB WERES UR TEAM HUH GET OUT MOMS BASSMENT AND GET A JOB

**Bowser** · 02-22-2013, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter

Polian just said Landry Jones was his guy.

.

You know those dumps you take that feel like a lead brick and have that KER-PLUNK noise when it hits the water? That's really just Polian's crediblility going to way of the Do-Do bird.

02-22-2013, 08:37 AM
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $124454	Poilian says no QB worthy of #1. Chiefs can find one later Former Colts GM Polian says Chiefs can find a QB in the draft — In Bill Polian’s long career as an NFL general manager, his team had the number-one pick in the draft just once. That was in 1998, when he was with Indianapolis, and the Colts that year selected a quarterback, Peyton Manning. That worked out well for Polian and the Colts. But Polian said he doesn’t think the Chiefs should draft a quarterback with this year’s first pick, even though they would like an upgrade over Matt Cassel. Like many assessing this year’s draft, Polian said there’s not a quarterback worthy of being the number-one selection. “Just because there’s not a quarterback that everybody now doesn’t think is worth the number-one pick doesn’t mean you can’t get a quarterback,” Polian said. “Nobody thought Russell Wilson was worth a third-round pick except a couple of us. He turned out to be a pretty good quarterback. “You always go for the best player. It’s foolish to go for need and (Chiefs coach Andy Reid) won’t do that.” While Reid coached in Philadelphia, the Eagles at least a couple of times found quarterbacks after the first round who eventually became starters, including Kevin Kolb and Nick Foles. “Nobody develops quarterbacks better than Andy Reid,” Polian said. “So rest assured, you’ve got the right guy. Whatever decision he makes will be the right one. He’ll find a quarterback. It doesn’t need to be the first guy in the draft.” Other than to stay away from quarterbacks, Polian had no advice for the Chiefs with the first pick. “Ask Andy,” he said. “They know their personnel far better than I do and they know what they need.” http://www.kansascity.com/2013/02/21...-colts-gm.html
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tony77 Starter Join Date: Jan 2013 Casino cash: $10004900	And snr . How the **** do you know what they are thinking?
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RealSNR Special Teams ACE!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the hell is SNR Casino cash: $-1514792	Reid and Dorsey haven't had careers in the NFL as long as they have by picking out Manuels and Nassibs as the best in their class. I don't know what they're thinking, but I can infer they're not completely inept at their jobs based on what they've done. By the same token, I can point to the fact that they are still alive as evidence that they aren't dumb enough to lick broken glass on the sidewalk or stick their dicks in light sockets.
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BWillie Are you ready to Rumble? Join Date: Apr 2006 Casino cash: $-1448759	And he's totally right. Tons and tons of QB's around the same talent level. Only a fool would draft a QB with a #1 pick when you can get one just as good, maybe better in the second round. You play the hand you are given, and in this case, this draft sucks donkey balls for QBs. It's just the Chiefs luck, deal with it or whine about it & convince yourself that Geno Smith is the next Peyton Manning. I'd prefer to just deal with it logically and make the best choices on value that you can.
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