Chiefs Joeckel vs. Alberts - Page 2

**FRCDFED** · 02-22-2013, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Our offensive line is 100% SET at Left tackle (Albert only gave up one sack in 11 starts), right guard (Asamoah is a ****ing STUD)and right tackle (Winston is a top five right tackle)...one of the two other spots is owned by Rodney Hudson...an all american left guard at fsu that has center skills...that leaves ONE LINE POSITION that we don't have a very good, young player at.

Left guard or center...to me, I'd like to see them move Hudson back to left guard and for us to draft a good center to finish the OL, but in no way shape or form should that be with the top pick.

We have NOBODY at quarterback and the difference between Geno and what we could get in the second round is significant.

If we come out of our top two picks with Geno and Barrett Jones, ill be a happy camper.

Using your scenerio we assume that we resign or franchise Albert. Then how high would Barrett Jones be drafted and is he the best C prospect?

O.city · 02-22-2013, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by FRCDFED

Using your scenerio we assume that we resign or franchise Albert. Then how high would Barrett Jones be drafted and is he the best C prospect?

You can probably get the best C prospect in the 3 or 4th round. Jones has a lis franc injury so he'll probably drop.

patteeu · 02-22-2013, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

You can probably get the best C prospect in the 3 or 4th round. Jones has a lis franc injury so he'll probably drop.

Yikes

patteeu · 02-22-2013, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Our offensive line is 100% SET at Left tackle (Albert only gave up one sack in 11 starts), right guard (Asamoah is a ****ing STUD)and right tackle (Winston is a top five right tackle)...one of the two other spots is owned by Rodney Hudson...an all american left guard at fsu that has center skills...that leaves ONE LINE POSITION that we don't have a very good, young player at.

Left guard or center...to me, I'd like to see them move Hudson back to left guard and for us to draft a good center to finish the OL, but in no way shape or form should that be with the top pick.

We have NOBODY at quarterback and the difference between Geno and what we could get in the second round is significant.

If we come out of our top two picks with Geno and Barrett Jones, ill be a happy camper.

That would be a pretty solid outcome, IMO.

If they drafted Joeckel according to my theory (of keeping both), it would be with the long term (~ a decade or so) in mind. I'm not as sure about Asamoah as you are and I think the jury is still out on Allen. Hopefully at least one of them is actually a long term stud and Hudson comes back strong either at G or C.

O.city · 02-22-2013, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

That would be a pretty solid outcome, IMO.

If they drafted Joeckel according to my theory (of keeping both), it would be with the long term (~ a decade or so) in mind. I'm not as sure about Asamoah as you are and I think the jury is still out on Allen. Hopefully at least one of them is actually a long term stud and Hudson comes back strong either at G or C.

There's just no way you can keep both. Financially and in terms of Albert signing, it won't work.

patteeu · 02-22-2013, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

There's just no way you can keep both. Financially and in terms of Albert signing, it won't work.

Why won't it work? Like I said, you'd only be paying one player legit LT money and the Chiefs have plenty of room under the cap. Teams with less cap room do that all the time.

-King- · 02-22-2013, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

Why won't it work? Like I said, you'd only be paying one player legit LT money and the Chiefs have plenty of room under the cap. Teams with less cap room do that all the time.

Name one team.

O.city · 02-22-2013, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

Why won't it work? Like I said, you'd only be paying one player legit LT money and the Chiefs have plenty of room under the cap. Teams with less cap room do that all the time.

No they don't. Sorry, but it's just not an idea that will work.

You have to franchise Albert. He's not going to sign on then be moved to guard. If you franchise him, he can sit out.

He doesnt' want to play guard and he probably won't.

**FRCDFED** · 02-22-2013, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

That would be a pretty solid outcome, IMO.

If they drafted Joeckel according to my theory (of keeping both), it would be with the long term (~ a decade or so) in mind. I'm not as sure about Asamoah as you are and I think the jury is still out on Allen. Hopefully at least one of them is actually a long term stud and Hudson comes back strong either at G or C.

What are the chances Jones makes it to the 3rd round? IMO we have to address the CB situation in round 2.

kcbubb · 02-23-2013, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Here's the show stopper to this conversation and I'm gonna keep bringing it up till this topic dies a gruesome death...

Lets say Joeckel is a guy that just finished his rookie season and had a good year, and isn't just a guy coming out of college?

Would you be willing to trade Brandon Albert AND the first overall pick for Luke Joeckel?

If you answer yes, please find a tall building ad place a thumbtack at the base of it and then climb to the top.

Once there, try to imagine where the thumb tack is and jump, with the intent of hitting that thumbtack with your nose.

Good luck.

I think you are missing the point of a free agent. If we don't resign Albert, it is the same situation as not signing any other free agent. It would be like giving up the 1st pick and Albert. We can sign any free agent we choose.