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Old 02-22-2013, 10:32 PM  
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Joeckel vs. Alberts
I know I probably misspelled his name but I want to get everyones true opinion of Joeckel. We want to sign Alberts but I believe most on here are in agreement that he isn't worth top 5 money. At the moment we don't know his demands.

Ever since Alberts was drafted we have debated on here whether or not he should be playing T or G. Mostly because he was a G in college. Most on here would agree that he is a pretty solid LT just not elite.

With that being said.........how does everyone really feel about potentially having a prototipical LT in Joeckel? Put the whole QB situation aside for a minute and just think of the OL.

If we came out of the draft with Joeckel and potentially Barkley if we traded back up or he fell for some reason then wouldn't that be a great start?
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Old 02-23-2013, 12:43 AM   #106
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Sign Albert to a top 10 LT contract.... play him at guard.


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Old 02-23-2013, 12:44 AM   #107
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I think we should sign Bowe to a top 10 WR contract and play in in the slot.
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Old 02-23-2013, 12:44 AM   #108
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Albert can play guard or tackle. It doesn't matter which positions are being paid as long as the total fits within your financial concept.

Keeping Albert at LT and drafting Warmack would be a similar alternative. Between the two options, you'd have to decide whether your team is better with an Albert/Warmack combo or a Joeckel/Albert combo. And the other advantage of taking Joeckel is that you'd have two solid options at LT if your starter gets injured.
When has Albert played guard in the NFL? We have no idea if he can or not.


You don't pay a G LT money, even if you have the cap space. Thats just not smart.
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Old 02-23-2013, 12:44 AM   #109
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No, how about you just re-sign Albert and don't draft an LT in the first round.
Agreed

End of argument, Albert is your new John Alt, and definitely reliable, stupid argument, I really hope we draft Geno
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The Chiefs should be trying to sign Albert well before the draft takes place. And no, you wouldn't be drafting for depth. Good lord, this isn't that complicated.
Maybe not depth, but you are essentially improving your LG spot with the first overall pick. It's not intelligent. At all.
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Old 02-23-2013, 12:47 AM   #111
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What the hell does that have to do with anything you've said? Did they draft another LT after re-signing Joe Thomas like you want the Chiefs to do after re-signing Albert?
You're not paying attention. What I said other teams do all the time is pay one player big LT money. It was in response to someone saying that the Chiefs couldn't afford to resign Albert and draft Joeckel. They could afford it just like Cleveland can afford to have one high priced offensive lineman and still field a full slate of OL.
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Maybe not depth, but you are essentially improving your LG spot with the first overall pick. It's not intelligent. At all.
You wouldn't do it unless you believed you were improving both LT and G. You'd be improving two positions with one pick.
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You're not paying attention. What I said other teams do all the time is pay one player big LT money. It was in response to someone saying that the Chiefs couldn't afford to resign Albert and draft Joeckel. They could afford it just like Cleveland can afford to have one high priced offensive lineman and still field a full slate of OL.
Thats the problem. Albert isnt going to sign a contract and play LG.
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You're not paying attention. What I said other teams do all the time is pay one player big LT money. It was in response to someone saying that the Chiefs couldn't afford to resign Albert and draft Joeckel. They could afford it just like Cleveland can afford to have one high priced offensive lineman and still field a full slate of OL.
No one has said that the Chiefs can't afford to pay Albert big LT money.

It would just be the stupidest decision in draft history if you re-signed a player to a big contract and then drafted his replacement that same offseason.
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You wouldn't do it unless you believed you were improving both LT and G. You'd be improving two positions with one pick.
Yeah, and how many wins does that translate into? Probably not much, especially with our crater behind C.
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When has Albert played guard in the NFL? We have no idea if he can or not.
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You don't pay a G LT money, even if you have the cap space. Thats just not smart.
Saying it's not smart doesn't make it not smart. What's not smart about it?
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You wouldn't do it unless you believed you were improving both LT and G. You'd be improving two positions with one pick.
How are we improving the LT position? Albert is a top 10 LT. We don't even know if Joeckel can be a top 32 LT in the NFL.
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It doesn't matter anyway, Joeckel isn't even the undisputed best LT in this class, much less to come out in a decade.
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You know, when I first found out we got the 1st pick in the draft, my instant reaction was "please God don't take a DL".

Now, after hearing all this bullshit about OT's and G's being the best players for our pick, I would much rather us draft Shariff Floyd or Sheldon Richardson than an OL, if those were the only two choices.
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Yeah, and how many wins does that translate into? Probably not much, especially with our crater behind C.
14. You simply can't resist turning everything back to a QB conversation can you?
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