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Old 02-22-2013, 10:32 PM  
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Joeckel vs. Alberts
I know I probably misspelled his name but I want to get everyones true opinion of Joeckel. We want to sign Alberts but I believe most on here are in agreement that he isn't worth top 5 money. At the moment we don't know his demands.

Ever since Alberts was drafted we have debated on here whether or not he should be playing T or G. Mostly because he was a G in college. Most on here would agree that he is a pretty solid LT just not elite.

With that being said.........how does everyone really feel about potentially having a prototipical LT in Joeckel? Put the whole QB situation aside for a minute and just think of the OL.

If we came out of the draft with Joeckel and potentially Barkley if we traded back up or he fell for some reason then wouldn't that be a great start?
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Old 02-23-2013, 12:53 AM   #121
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Saying it's not smart doesn't make it not smart. What's not smart about it?
What team has paid a LG LT money? Ever? LG isn't viewed as a high impact position, therefor people don't pay big money for that position. There is a reason (right or wrong) why LT's make that much money.


Why do you think Albert can play LG?
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14. You simply can't resist turning everything back to a QB conversation can you?
And you simply can't resist making stupid ****ing claims like paying a LG LT money.
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How are we improving the LT position? Albert is a top 10 LT. We don't even know if Joeckel can be a top 32 LT in the NFL.
If Albert is a top 10 LT and Joeckel is a top 5 LT, you've improved your LT position, that's how.
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If Albert is a top 10 LT and Joeckel is a top 5 LT, you've improved your LT position, that's how.


Ok, you're trolling. Got it.
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What team has paid a LG LT money? Ever? LG isn't viewed as a high impact position, therefor people don't pay big money for that position. There is a reason (right or wrong) why LT's make that much money.


Why do you think Albert can play LG?
I asked you a question. Do you have an answer that actually addresses it?
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If Albert is a top 10 LT and Joeckel is a top 5 LT, you've improved your LT position, that's how.
Thats true, but in the grand scheme of winning football games, it wouldn't be a huge gap.


We then get into the difference in a top 10 LT and a top 5 LT. Honestly, I feel like the LT spot is a little overvalued at this point in time, but thats a different situation all together.
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I asked you a question. Do you have an answer that actually addresses it?
Actually I did in a previous post.


LG isn't a high impact spot, you can get good play for much cheaper, which allows you to spend said money elsewhere.
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Thats true
How is it true? Joeckel could end up being just as good as Jason Smith in the league.
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How is it true? Joeckel could end up being just as good as Jason Smith in the league.
He didn't say Joeckel would be, he said if he was. So technically, it would be improving the positions.

I don't think it's much difference between a top 10 LT and a top 5 LT, in terms of wins and losses though.
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We should draft a RB 1st overall and move Charles to Fullback. We'll have improved two positions.
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What team has paid a LG LT money? Ever? LG isn't viewed as a high impact position, therefor people don't pay big money for that position. There is a reason (right or wrong) why LT's make that much money.


Why do you think Albert can play LG?
BTW, both the Raiders and the Cardinals have done it. I'm sure there are others. Not that that makes any difference in this argument.
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We should draft Jarvis Jones first overall and move Justin Houston to DE. We'll have improved two positions that way!
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BTW, both the Raiders and the Cardinals have done it. I'm sure there are others. Not that that makes any difference in this argument.
They have? When?
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BTW, both the Raiders and the Cardinals have done it. I'm sure there are others. Not that that makes any difference in this argument.
Well, IIRC, they did it because their LT wasn't good enough to play LT, so yeah, this is a different situation. We would be doing it because we found a better LT, which IMO, isn't necessary because Albert is very much above average at LT, so that first pick could be used to get a better player elsewhere.
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I think he's referring to Gallery and I'm not sure about the Cardinals.
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