Teicher: Dorsey says Chiefs could draft Joeckel and re-sign Albert

[Tribal Warfare]

Dorsey says Chiefs could draft Joeckel and re-sign Albert
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star
General manager John Dorsey said Saturday the Chiefs might select Texas A&M’s Luke Joeckel with the first pick in the draft even if they re-sign Branden Albert, their incumbent left tackle. Dorsey said the Chiefs would draft the highest-rated player they have on their board regardless of his position.

“Then you have great competition at left tackle,’’ said Dorsey, speaking at the NFL Scouting Combine, of the combination of re-signing Albert and drafting Joeckel . “Who’s to say both of those guys are locked in to playing left tackle? Maybe one plays left guard, center, right guard, right tackle. You put your best five offensive linemen out there.

“There are so many options out there right now. Anything is possible.’’

Another interesting option for the Chiefs is Georgia linebacker Jarvis Jones, who had 28 sacks over the past two seasons. The Chiefs already have Pro Bowlers at outside linebacker in Tamba Hali and Justin Houston.

“They’re both pretty good players,’’ Dorsey said of the incumbents. “But who’s to say you couldn’t acquire another outside linebacker and what you could do is begin to rotate them. What you do is you make that unit better because they’re all fresher. They’re not on the field pounding all the time. That’s the thing about building quality depth. You can make your guys fresher in the fourth quarter.’’

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[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I don't get it. You like it, but you don't like it?

If a building is on fire, the main goal is to put the fire out.

You can approach it by attempting to extinguish the fire at its source quickly and efficiently. You might even be able to concentrate the fire damage to a limited area and save the building.

Or, you can let the ****er burn down, extinguishing the fire by letting it run out of fuel.

Drafting Joeckel and taking Wilson is the second example. Throwing up your arms and saying, "WELP, TOO BAD THIS IS A SHITTY YEAR TO HAVE THE FIRST OVERALL PICK" is the same ****ing thing as giving up. You have the best pick in the draft and you're using it to improve nothing on the team.

"Mission accomplished" or not, Reid and Dorsey weren't hired to find a QB and piss away the rest of the draft when things get inconvenient for them.

[pr_capone]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Dorsey says Chiefs could draft Joeckel and re-sign Albert

Another interesting option for the Chiefs is Georgia linebacker Jarvis Jones, who had 28 sacks over the past two seasons. The Chiefs already have Pro Bowlers at outside linebacker in Tamba Hali and Justin Houston.

JFC... seriously Teicher??? You definitely keep up to date with the goings ons, dontcha?

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by SNR

If a building is on fire, the main goal is to put the fire out.

You can approach it by attempting to extinguish the fire at its source quickly and efficiently. You might even be able to concentrate the fire damage to a limited area and save the building.

Or, you can let the ****er burn down, extinguishing the fire by letting it run out of fuel.

Drafting Joeckel and taking Wilson is the second example. Throwing up your arms and saying, "WELP, TOO BAD THIS IS A SHITTY YEAR TO HAVE THE FIRST OVERALL PICK" is the same ****ing thing as giving up. You have the best pick in the draft and you're using it to improve nothing on the team.

"Mission accomplished" or not, Reid and Dorsey weren't hired to find a QB and piss away the rest of the draft when things get inconvenient for them.

This depends entirely on point of view.

Our OL is very overrated, and you can definitely see that when you watch our games against Buffalo and Oakland especially. Hell look at the last 3 years of games vs Oakland and we're getting owned.
We were outclassed and assraped by them over and over again.

The OL is most definitely an underlying problem.

I don't give a shit how we get our QB. At 1, 34 or 63. If we feel that Tyler Wilson is the guy we want, then getting him AND a damn good OL, while resigning Albert, that is a ****ing huge win for us.

[chiefsfan_91]

Originally Posted by RunKC

1. Luke Joeckel
2. Tyler Wilson

I'm down for that.

As would I. The thing with drafting Joeckel at 1, even if we resign Albert, is that we solidify the left side of the line for the next 6-8 years, and we end up with one of the best o-lines in football (Joeckel, Albert, hopefully someone other than Hudson, Stephenson, Winston) AND we get a guy who can hopefully be a franchise QB. This sets us up for both short and long term success, but it puts us in the same situation we were in this time last season. Its entirely dependant on QB play. And that is the reason I would want to bring in an Alex Smith type player, who has been successful in this league with the right coaching (which we have) and can teach Wilson the ins and outs of NFL defenses, adjustments, hots, etc. and let him develop into the guy that we need. Remember, Joe Montana didn't start right away. He sat for a year or 2 with a clipboard in his hand before getting the reins.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by chiefsfan_91

As would I. The thing with drafting Joeckel at 1, even if we resign Albert, is that we solidify the left side of the line for the next 6-8 years, and we end up with one of the best o-lines in football (Joeckel, Albert, hopefully someone other than Hudson, Stephenson, Winston) AND we get a guy who can hopefully be a franchise QB. This sets us up for both short and long term success, but it puts us in the same situation we were in this time last season. Its entirely dependant on QB play. And that is the reason I would want to bring in an Alex Smith type player, who has been successful in this league with the right coaching (which we have) and can teach Wilson the ins and outs of NFL defenses, adjustments, hots, etc. and let him develop into the guy that we need. Remember, Joe Montana didn't start right away. He sat for a year or 2 with a clipboard in his hand before getting the reins.

WTF? So, you want to replace Hudson and move Stephenson to RG?


JFC.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by RunKC

This depends entirely on point of view.

Our OL is very overrated, and you can definitely see that when you watch our games against Buffalo and Oakland especially. Hell look at the last 3 years of games vs Oakland and we're getting owned.
We were outclassed and assraped by them over and over again.

The OL is most definitely an underlying problem.

I don't give a shit how we get our QB. At 1, 34 or 63. If we feel that Tyler Wilson is the guy we want, then getting him AND a damn good OL, while resigning Albert, that is a ****ing huge win for us.

If you're talking about the inconsistent play from Hudson prior to his injury in addition to Allen's shitty play as a rookie, then absolutely. We have some problems to fix.

In what way was Branden Albert the cause of any of those problems?

One. ****ing. Sack. Allowed. Last year.

Your solution to our offensive line inconsistency is to replace the most efficient cog in the machine with a different one that might not be any better than the original. Guess what? The problem areas that need to be addressed are going to keep sucking if we do that.

[DaWolf]

It's obvious they are desperate to trade out of that spot...

[58-4ever]

Originally Posted by Sorter

those headbands are strangely hot on women.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by chiefsfan_91

As would I. The thing with drafting Joeckel at 1, even if we resign Albert, is that we solidify the left side of the line for the next 6-8 years, and we end up with one of the best o-lines in football (Joeckel, Albert, hopefully someone other than Hudson, Stephenson, Winston) AND we get a guy who can hopefully be a franchise QB. This sets us up for both short and long term success, but it puts us in the same situation we were in this time last season. Its entirely dependant on QB play. And that is the reason I would want to bring in an Alex Smith type player, who has been successful in this league with the right coaching (which we have) and can teach Wilson the ins and outs of NFL defenses, adjustments, hots, etc. and let him develop into the guy that we need. Remember, Joe Montana didn't start right away. He sat for a year or 2 with a clipboard in his hand before getting the reins.

For rookies, I didn't think Allen and Stephenson were horrible.

Room for improvement? Definately!

But given that most say it takes a couple of years to adapt to the NFL, they have a chance to be pretty good IMO.

[58-4ever]

what's crazy is that we have two of the top 32 left tackles in the league and we are thinking of drafting a third. Only in KC

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Anything other than QB is an absolute failure...PERIOD.

[RealSNR]

Name some recent Super Bowl teams with a HOF-level LT.

Name some recent Super Bowl teams with an adequate LT that got the job done.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Nothing?

"Then you have great competition at LT"

This bullshit line, which precedes Dorsey's suggestion that a player taken at 1/1 might be a guard or center, is about depth.

When you have two guys capable of playing the most important position on the line, you let them compete for the job until you figure out which one is the best fit and then you move the other one to one of the other four spots on the line. Depth isn't being contemplated in any sense other than a guy who is starting right now would be depth after one of these two guys takes his spot.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by 58-4ever

those headbands are strangely hot on women.

Like, unbelievably.