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Old 02-23-2013, 03:32 PM  
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Teicher: Dorsey says Chiefs could draft Joeckel and re-sign Albert

Dorsey says Chiefs could draft Joeckel and re-sign Albert
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star
General manager John Dorsey said Saturday the Chiefs might select Texas A&M’s Luke Joeckel with the first pick in the draft even if they re-sign Branden Albert, their incumbent left tackle. Dorsey said the Chiefs would draft the highest-rated player they have on their board regardless of his position.

“Then you have great competition at left tackle,’’ said Dorsey, speaking at the NFL Scouting Combine, of the combination of re-signing Albert and drafting Joeckel . “Who’s to say both of those guys are locked in to playing left tackle? Maybe one plays left guard, center, right guard, right tackle. You put your best five offensive linemen out there.

“There are so many options out there right now. Anything is possible.’’

Another interesting option for the Chiefs is Georgia linebacker Jarvis Jones, who had 28 sacks over the past two seasons. The Chiefs already have Pro Bowlers at outside linebacker in Tamba Hali and Justin Houston.

“They’re both pretty good players,’’ Dorsey said of the incumbents. “But who’s to say you couldn’t acquire another outside linebacker and what you could do is begin to rotate them. What you do is you make that unit better because they’re all fresher. They’re not on the field pounding all the time. That’s the thing about building quality depth. You can make your guys fresher in the fourth quarter.’’
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Old 02-23-2013, 06:59 PM   #166
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I put this in the same category as "we can sign Stanford Rout and still sign Brandon Carr..."
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Old 02-23-2013, 07:06 PM   #167
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You know, i could shit on a plate and then eat it. But what would be the ****ing point???? God i hope dorsey is either ****ing with peeholi or not this ****ing reeruned.
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Old 02-23-2013, 07:10 PM   #168
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Old 02-23-2013, 07:16 PM   #169
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You know, i could shit on a plate and then eat it. But what would be the ****ing point???? God i hope dorsey is either ****ing with peeholi or not this ****ing reeruned.
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Old 02-23-2013, 07:21 PM   #170
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If we re-sign Albert and then draft Joeckel, that will be worse than drafting Tyson Jackson at 3.
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Why would that be a good idea?
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Old 02-23-2013, 07:42 PM   #172
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Yes. Its GOT to be a dig at peeholi. "competitiion at the LT position"???? **** me stupid...
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Old 02-23-2013, 07:48 PM   #173
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Yes. Its GOT to be a dig at peeholi. "competitiion at the LT position"???? **** me stupid...
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Surely Dorsey didn't make that statement to lure others into trading into the #1 spot. There's isn't an Andrew Luck type of prospect in this draft, so there's no point in letting everybody else know who were drafting to keep all options on the table.
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Why would that be a good idea?
Tyson Jackson was a monumental reach who had no business being in the top 10, let alone top 15. He was a mid first round pick at best.

We draft Joeckel, then I'm cool with it, as long as we get our QB with the 34th pick or by trading back into round 1.

As said before, I would be ecstatic if we got Joeckel and Wilson. Absolutely ecstatic.
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We draft Joeckel, then I'm cool with it, as long as we get our QB with the 34th pick
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Tyson Jackson was a monumental reach who had no business being in the top 10, let alone top 15. He was a mid first round pick at best.

We draft Joeckel, then I'm cool with it, as long as we get our QB with the 34th pick or by trading back into round 1.

As said before, I would be ecstatic if we got Joeckel and Wilson. Absolutely ecstatic.
Why not re-sign Albert, draft Wilson at 1, and then score awesome value on a starting CB just as good as Milliner in the 2nd round?

"Because that's not very good value"? Neither is drafting a tackle at 1 who might not even be as good as the guy you got there all so you can save money. In my scenario, at least you get a starting tackle, a QB that you wanted, and an additional hole on the team filled by a still pretty great player. In your scenario, you get the same QB at a better price, but you're jizzing away value on a negligible "upgrade" at LT. Not only that, you miss out on drafting a starting CB.

Makes no sense why that's an acceptable option just because Wilson was the value. How we for once don't worry about value when it comes to the QB? How about we use draft value to pick up all the shitty positions that don't win you anything like OT and DT. And you know... use the resources that we have been given to find a starting QB who doesn't suck AIDS.
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Tyson Jackson was a monumental reach who had no business being in the top 10, let alone top 15. He was a mid first round pick at best.

We draft Joeckel, then I'm cool with it, as long as we get our QB with the 34th pick or by trading back into round 1.

As said before, I would be ecstatic if we got Joeckel and Wilson. Absolutely ecstatic.
I think he was meaning if we re sign Albert, it would be an awful pick.

Funny cause about a month ago, you were talking about how awful it woudl be if we took an OL guy at 1. What changed?

Joeckel is being questioned not if he's the best OL in a decade, but in his own draft class. It we re sign Albert, Joeckel doesnt' make sense to me in that we have other spots I'd rather spend that pick on if we aren't taking a QB at 1. I don't, like some here, view Albert as a G. If we want to get better at G, Warmack/Cooper would make more sense.

I know you were all about Mayocks Geno stuff, so by him, taking Wilson at 34 would be a reach, he doestn' even have him as a top 5 QB, having him below Landry Jones. So is Jones better?
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Think about it, if Joeckel reaches his potential, he might have a year where he only gives up 1 sack.
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if we re-sign Bowe and Albert and then we take Tavon Austin after he runs a 4.18 40 because Reid thinks he's a better Percy Harvin then fine...I'll get over it

if we take any DL or OL with the #1 I'm going to hate them until they give me a reason not to hate them

in today's NFL you simply don't take OT or DL #1 overall anymore. It's ****ing stupid. I wouldn't take Willie Roaf #1 overall...I wouldn't take Warren Sapp #1 overall.

you win with playmakers...if they truly think Geno and the other QB's aren't franchise caliber QB's then fine...at least get me a god damn playmaker
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