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Old 02-23-2013, 03:32 PM  
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Teicher: Dorsey says Chiefs could draft Joeckel and re-sign Albert
Dorsey says Chiefs could draft Joeckel and re-sign Albert
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star
General manager John Dorsey said Saturday the Chiefs might select Texas A&M’s Luke Joeckel with the first pick in the draft even if they re-sign Branden Albert, their incumbent left tackle. Dorsey said the Chiefs would draft the highest-rated player they have on their board regardless of his position.

“Then you have great competition at left tackle,’’ said Dorsey, speaking at the NFL Scouting Combine, of the combination of re-signing Albert and drafting Joeckel . “Who’s to say both of those guys are locked in to playing left tackle? Maybe one plays left guard, center, right guard, right tackle. You put your best five offensive linemen out there.

“There are so many options out there right now. Anything is possible.’’

Another interesting option for the Chiefs is Georgia linebacker Jarvis Jones, who had 28 sacks over the past two seasons. The Chiefs already have Pro Bowlers at outside linebacker in Tamba Hali and Justin Houston.

“They’re both pretty good players,’’ Dorsey said of the incumbents. “But who’s to say you couldn’t acquire another outside linebacker and what you could do is begin to rotate them. What you do is you make that unit better because they’re all fresher. They’re not on the field pounding all the time. That’s the thing about building quality depth. You can make your guys fresher in the fourth quarter.’’
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Old 02-23-2013, 10:47 PM   #301
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Prove it to me. How many LTs have been drafted in the last 10 years and successfully moved to OG?
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Old 02-23-2013, 10:48 PM   #302
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So "your" guy is just any guy.
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Old 02-23-2013, 10:49 PM   #303
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There's a Joeckel in EVERY DRAFT.
Well 2014 has Jake Matthews who I actually believe is better than Joeckel. Plus Taylor Lewan from Michigan.

So It's not like Joeckel is some once in a generation LT. He's a normal ass 1st round LT prospect. Nothing special or anything that makes him unique.
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Old 02-23-2013, 10:50 PM   #304
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Frankly, I'm still of the opinion we end up taking a QB at 1.
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Old 02-23-2013, 10:50 PM   #305
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So "your" guy is just any guy.
Nope. I want Wilson. He's my guy. But multiple QB's have the tools in this class.
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Old 02-23-2013, 10:52 PM   #306
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Combined numbers for QB starts under Andy Reid NOT named Donovan McNabb:

38-44 record (.463)
55% completion percentage
112 TD's
94 INT's
70 QBR.


And before we go all off on Reid being a QB guru, the numbers don't necessarily say thats the case.
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Old 02-23-2013, 10:52 PM   #307
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Nope. I want Wilson. He's my guy. But multiple QB's have the tools in this class.
There's a reason I put "your" in quotations.
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Old 02-23-2013, 10:56 PM   #309
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Combined numbers for QB starts under Andy Reid NOT named Donovan McNabb:

38-44 record (.463)
55% completion percentage
112 TD's
94 INT's
70 QBR.


And before we go all off on Reid being a QB guru, the numbers don't necessarily say thats the case.
I'm not sure we can really judge his drafted QB's accurately. Kolb and Foles started one year in Philly.

Kolb looked good in Philly. Who knows how he would have looked had he stayed.
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I'm not sure we can really judge his drafted QB's accurately. Kolb and Foles started one year in Philly.

Kolb looked good in Philly. Who knows how he would have looked had he stayed.
Kolb was ok. I think Foles has alot more upside than Kolb, but Kolb wasn't really very good in Philly.

It really shows how stupid Arizona was to make that trade.
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If anything, it shows that Reid can get average/slightly above average out of shit QB's. When he has a talented guy, sky's the limit.


Which, IMO, is the most exciting thing.
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1. Luke Joeckel
2. Tyler Wilson

I'm down for that.
I would rather keep Albert at LT so we can take a QB and CB/S/WR/LB with our first 2 picks. In your scenario we come out with two positions filled with potential. Mine it's 3. If you argue that in scenario 1 you move Albert to guard thus making it 3 positions you have helped, it still doesn't measure up. You can find a guard later in drafts. You don't need your first overall pick be an attempt to improve a guard spot.

Any way you slice it letting Albert go or moved to guard and taking a LT at 1.1 is not going to be full value. That's the irony of all this talk about Joeckel being the value pick. Picking a guy to fill a position you have a guy to fill isn't value. Adding skill at the guard position with an Albert move doesn't equal the value of what we can get in the 2nd round with CB ect.
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I haven't read a single post in this thread, but just reading the title, this is the dumbest ****ing idea of all the draft ideas I've heard for the Chiefs. And it's coming from our GM?
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I'm surprised people are actually taking his pre draft statements seriously. He's not going to let on to what direction he and the chiefs are going until we actually make the pick.
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