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Old 02-27-2013, 10:59 AM  
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Alex Smith Traded to Chiefs
Well, it looks like the deal is done.



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49ers have completed a trade with the Chiefs for Alex Smith, tho can't be official til March 12. Chiefs really made a commitment to Smith


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Deal has been agreed upon between Chiefs and 49ers. Compensation unclear but I'm told again Chiefs have made a clear commitment to Smith.
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Old 02-28-2013, 11:42 AM   #1936
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I really dont get it. I dont. how they cant see that Alex Smith as the helm keeper for a year or two, with andy reid grooming his replacement, is an upgrade over taking geno smith who clearly andy reid has deemed doesnt fit him, or is just not that good. If they had not traded for alex smith, drafted geno smith, geno smith flops, then andy reid is a moron, and should fist his grandmother. lol. no win here apparently.
you don't give up two second round picks for a stop gap. you are a ****ing moron.
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Old 02-28-2013, 11:43 AM   #1937
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WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO DRAFT THE YOUNG, TALENTED GUY?

With the 65th pick in this draft?

With the 98th?

With a yet-to-be-determined pick next year?

This trade limits both the options AND likelihood the Chiefs will draft that young guy or even be in position to draft him, and it brings in a guy who is a game manager, a placeholder, who you have to win in SPITE of, not BECAUSE of.

That's why it sucks.
Have you scouted the college guys at all, the only guy I see outhere who screams franchise to me is johnny manziel, other than that, the rest of the guys are all kind of developmental guys.

I totally understand what you guys are going through, I was pissed Jim brought back alex, and this was before alex had even posted a winning record, but I learned not to question the QB guru about quarterbacks. Alex came in, played well, and won football games, including 6 or 7 4th quarter comebacks.

The team won with alex, not because of or in spite of. He was a part of the machine moreso than the head of voltron, but that is part of what made the 2011 team as good as they were.
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Old 02-28-2013, 11:46 AM   #1938
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No, there isn't a QB according to perception.

If the Jets were drafting #1 overall, I bet your soon-to-be-repaired knee someone among Geno, Barkley, or Wilson would be named the unquestioned best pick in the draft.
You might be right, but as it stands, it is what it is. I can't stay mad and ruin my day over something I can't control. I can only choose to accept what it is and pray for the best. I know we've done this before, and it is sickeningly familiar, but I can't stay angry. It's not healthy. I'm choosing to pray for the best. I can't change teams. Im a fan and that will never change, unless the franchise changes cities and name. And even then, I'm not sure I wouldn't follow them. So, that's it. I'm choosing to accept it and I'm choosing not to tell People to die I an aids fire just cuz they feel differently than I.
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Old 02-28-2013, 11:46 AM   #1939
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Stop gap veterans are acquired via free agency. You don't give up assets to acquire them.

Reid is in 'win now' mode. He's seen the team, and thinks they're good enough to be a playoff team and win. He obviously think Smith is good enough to get the team those postseason wins. Reid has tied his stay in KC to Alex Smith, and he will get four years with Smith to prove he can win with him.

There will be no grooming of a high round QB, unless this team wins less than four games this season. Bank on it.
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Old 02-28-2013, 11:47 AM   #1940
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You guys really give Chiefs fans a bad rap. Grow up. I've never seen a more classless group of people. You guys are not even worth my time. I came here to talk football and talk about a player that was on my favorite team for 8 years. You guys don't even deserve to have a winning team with fans that act this juvenile.

You have your wish. I'm done here. Until 2014 when you guys get humiliated in SF. Good luck to your team in 2013. Stay positive.
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Old 02-28-2013, 11:48 AM   #1941
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Have you scouted the college guys at all, the only guy I see outhere who screams franchise to me is johnny manziel, other than that, the rest of the guys are all kind of developmental guys.

I totally understand what you guys are going through, I was pissed Jim brought back alex, and this was before alex had even posted a winning record, but I learned not to question the QB guru about quarterbacks. Alex came in, played well, and won football games, including 6 or 7 4th quarter comebacks.

The team won with alex, not because of or in spite of. He was a part of the machine moreso than the head of voltron, but that is part of what made the 2011 team as good as they were.
lol, Manziel? The kid is like 6 feet tall and has a noodle arm.

Geez, you know absolutely nothing about NFL QB play do you? Of course not, if you did, you wouldn't be here pimping Alex ****ing Smith.
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Have you scouted the college guys at all, the only guy I see outhere who screams franchise to me is johnny manziel, other than that, the rest of the guys are all kind of developmental guys.

I totally understand what you guys are going through, I was pissed Jim brought back alex, and this was before alex had even posted a winning record, but I learned not to question the QB guru about quarterbacks. Alex came in, played well, and won football games, including 6 or 7 4th quarter comebacks.

The team won with alex, not because of or in spite of. He was a part of the machine moreso than the head of voltron, but that is part of what made the 2011 team as good as they were.
Johnny Manziel is a ****ing joke. You have no clue what you're talking about.
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Stop gap veterans are acquired via free agency. You don't give up assets to acquire them.
This - end of story...
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Old 02-28-2013, 11:49 AM   #1944
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Tom Brady is the only notable exception in recent NFL history. We've already fired one moron GM who thought that was a repeatable find.

Other QBs who have won a SB in past 10 years:

Eli Manning x2 (No. 1 overall)
Peyton Manning (No. 1 overall)
Ben Roethlisberger x2 (No. 11)
Aaron Rodgers (No. 24, dumb draft day slide)
Joe Flacco (No. 18)
Drew Brees (No. 33, technically a second-rounder but for all intents a first-round guy. Also someone who dumbly was allowed to slide on draft day)
Brees was actually taken at #32 which would be a 1st round pick now.
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Lol was listening to Herm in 810 last night. Even he said he would roll the dice on Geno. He
Made a good point n said I'm not scared to play young guys. Lol. He was like. This team doesn't ha e to rebuild I did that for them lol. As much as I'm glad he's gone. He knew he had to rebuild and he gave it a go.
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**** yeah, lets run our way to the superbowl with Johnny Manziel!!!


lol that kid won't last 2 seasons in the NFL before he gets lit up and broken.
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Alex almost took the 49ers to the superbowl, a lot closer than any chief has been since when the 80's, the 70's???

If you want to win with alex, you build strong personnel, solid coaching, and a good dependable defense. So lets look at drafting a QB this year:

There is not a #1 overall talent, so cross that off your wish list. So you get a guy later in the first round. You throw him onto a very bad team with a new scheme and you expect that unorganized cluster**** to somehow lead to an eventual superbowl???

Alex gives you time to develop a team that a young QB can take over and do well. have a little respect for a couple of the better QB minds in the game. Reid and Jim harbaugh have both proven to be very good with quarterbacks, and the fact that they both want this guys should tell you a little something about the less obvious things he brings to a football team.
Where are we going to draft that young QB? At 1.1? Nope. At 2.34? Whoops. With next year's second or third? Oh crap.

Andy Reid is 22-26 without Donovan McNabb and Jim Johnson and he just traded two high picks for a guy who no one wanted for free last year.

**** Reid, **** Dorsey, and may the fleas of a million rats infest your every orifice.
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Have you scouted the college guys at all, the only guy I see outhere who screams franchise to me is johnny manziel, other than that, the rest of the guys are all kind of developmental guys.

I totally understand what you guys are going through, I was pissed Jim brought back alex, and this was before alex had even posted a winning record, but I learned not to question the QB guru about quarterbacks. Alex came in, played well, and won football games, including 6 or 7 4th quarter comebacks.

The team won with alex, not because of or in spite of. He was a part of the machine moreso than the head of voltron, but that is part of what made the 2011 team as good as they were.
no **** you!!! you have no idea what we are going through. you have 5 super bowl champions, got to watch the greatest qb of all time play a long career with your franchise, then turned around and replaced him with yet another hall of fame qb, your franchise fell to the bottom, and has rose back to the top. i've watched my team flounder since 93. you have no ****ing clue what we are going through. now, get the **** out you god damn TROLL!!
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You guys really give Chiefs fans a bad rap. Grow up. I've never seen a more classless group of people. You guys are not even worth my time. I came here to talk football and talk about a player that was on my favorite team for 8 years. You guys don't even deserve to have a winning team with fans that act this juvenile.

You have your wish. I'm done here. Until 2014 when you guys get humiliated in SF. Good luck to your team in 2013. Stay positive.

yep we have a bunch of dumb rednecks with internet connections on here sometimes... but also a many knowledgeable football fans.
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Lol was listening to Herm in 810 last night. Even he said he would roll the dice on Geno. .
If Herm would have had final say we would have traded for Matt Ryan...
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