Chiefs Alex Smith Traded to Chiefs - Page 190

Deberg_1990 · 02-27-2013, 10:59 AM

Well, it looks like the deal is done.

https://twitter.com/intent/user?scre...w_p=tweetembed

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49ers have completed a trade with the Chiefs for Alex Smith, tho can't be official til March 12. Chiefs really made a commitment to Smith

Jay Glazer @JayGlazer
Deal has been agreed upon between Chiefs and 49ers. Compensation unclear but I'm told again Chiefs have made a clear commitment to Smith.

**The Bad Guy** · 03-03-2013, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

If it was so obvious that Geno Smith was a Franchise QB, why isn't he being talked about as if he's a Franchise QB? And why wouldn't Reid and Dorsey feel the same?

You better wait until SNR or Hamas can answer that for GoChiefs. The first original thought he has will be the first.

Hammock Parties · 03-03-2013, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Bullshit. Bullshit. Bullshit.

I'm not the first one to say this.

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Yes, absolutely on the QB grades. It’s a little unfair, but we saw the same thing with defensive tackles the year after Ndamukong Suh and Gerald McCoy were taken in the top three. But we also saw this in 2004 after Manning, Rivers and Roethlisberger were picked. For the next couple of years, QBs will be compared to Luck, RG3, Tannehill and Russell Wilson (not so much Brandon Weeden).

To succinctly answer your question, they’ll be skewed this year, but things will settle next year. Then Teddy Bridgewater will re-raise the bar in 2014. Book it.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-03-2013, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Thanks for the reminder not to set our goals any higher than the division we are in. Like winning the AFCW is a big deal

Sure it is when we have a team that can win in the playoffs but untill then we are of suckville.

"Our goals"?

JFC, after going 4-12, 2-14, 4-12, 10-6, 7-9 and 2-14, the immediate goal should be to field a competent, competitive football team.

Becoming a Super Bowl team doesn't happen overnight. The Atlanta Falcons drafted Matt Ryan #3 overall and have given up multiple draft choices over the past several years in order to surround him with talent, and just THIS YEAR, they finally broke through and won a single playoff game.

You're delusional if you believe that the Chiefs aren't attempting to build a Super Bowl caliber team but that doesn't happen in ONE YEAR.

Messier · 03-03-2013, 05:19 PM

If Geno goes in the top ten it will be a reach. Someone will do it, it's become the thing to do.

The recent QB reaches, all seem to turn out to be what people thought they were. Weeden, Ponder, Locker and the like. Nothing special. Right now I'll take Smith over the recent QB reaches.

Hammock Parties · 03-03-2013, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

If it was so obvious that Geno Smith was a Franchise QB, why isn't he being talked about as if he's a Franchise QB? And why wouldn't Reid and Dorsey feel the same?

Because of last year's draft class, and morons like Kiper and Miller.

And you don't know that they don't like Geno. It was reported after the combine that the Chiefs were impressed with him.

**Mav** · 03-03-2013, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell

What's better, taking a chance on an unknown QB with top end talent (Geno, undeniably), or going with a sure thing (Alex Smith) when it means 9-7?

sighs. Geno clearly doesnt have undeniable talent. If he did, if it was just a talent issue, they would take him. If he was in the talent class of RG3, then they would take him, and it would be a no brainer. No talent evaluators, say that he is in that class. hes NOT.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-03-2013, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell

I'm not the first one to say this.

Where did that quote originate?

Hammock Parties · 03-03-2013, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Where did that quote originate?

It was from a live chat with Pat Kirwan, I believe.

**Ming the Merciless** · 03-03-2013, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Becoming a Super Bowl team doesn't happen overnight. The Atlanta Falcons drafted Matt Ryan #3 overall and have given up multiple draft choices over the past several years in order to surround him with talent, and just THIS YEAR, they finally broke through and won a single playoff game.

I would JIMP if we did that....(and had developed a 27 year old matt ryan)..where do you see us in several years with Alex Smith at the helm?

**The Bad Guy** · 03-03-2013, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell

Because of last year's draft class, and morons like Kiper and Miller.

And you don't know that they don't like Geno. It was reported after the combine that the Chiefs were impressed with him.

Yes, so impressed that they traded for Alex Smith.

Deductive reasoning isn't your strength.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-03-2013, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell

Because of last year's draft class, and morons like Kiper and Miller.

Oh, that's bullshit.

The guy isn't in the same league as Cam Newton or even Sam Bradford. He failed to play like a franchise QB in his biggest games, didn't put the team on this back and win.

Cam Newton won an NCAA National Championship and a Junior College National Championship. Sam Bradford played lights out OU.

Geno Smith's pedigree isn't even close to either of those guys, not to mention Luck or Griffin.

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell

And you don't know that they don't like Geno. It was reported after the combine that the Chiefs were impressed with him.

And it's been reported that the Chiefs traded for Alex Smith, so they must not have liked him enough to draft him.

**The Bad Guy** · 03-03-2013, 05:23 PM

Compared to. Nowhere does it say that Aaron Rodgers dropped because of those other QBs.

Rasputin · 03-03-2013, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

"Our goals"?

JFC, after going 4-12, 2-14, 4-12, 10-6, 7-9 and 2-14, the immediate goal should be to field a competent, competitive football team.

Becoming a Super Bowl team doesn't happen overnight. The Atlanta Falcons drafted Matt Ryan #3 overall and have given up multiple draft choices over the past several years in order to surround him with talent, and just THIS YEAR, they finally broke through and won a single playoff game.

You're delusional if you believe that the Chiefs aren't attempting to build a Super Bowl caliber team but that doesn't happen in ONE YEAR.

These are very valid points to make to DRAFT A QBOTF!!!!!!!!!! It doesn't take overnight and we can build for long term success and then hope for the best to win the ****ing Super Bowl in a time span of 10 years. That's the kind of window of opportunity a franchise QB can make and you can get that franchise QB with the first pick of the draft picking the best prospect at that point. JHC this isn't rocket science.

**** the five year plan retread course and **** Alex Smith.

Hammock Parties · 03-03-2013, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Oh, that's bullshit.

The guy isn't in the same league as Cam Newton

Just ridiculous, Dane.

Cam Newton barely threw for 3,000 yards in college and ran the ****ing option. He had multiple character concerns and was a questionable passer.

But he was still picked #1, because he had sick ****ing talent.

Geno is a far, far superior prospect.

Rasputin · 03-03-2013, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

"Our goals"?

JFC, after going 4-12, 2-14, 4-12, 10-6, 7-9 and 2-14, the immediate goal should be to field a competent, competitive football team.

Becoming a Super Bowl team doesn't happen overnight. The Atlanta Falcons drafted Matt Ryan #3 overall and have given up multiple draft choices over the past several years in order to surround him with talent, and just THIS YEAR, they finally broke through and won a single playoff game.

You're delusional if you believe that the Chiefs aren't attempting to build a Super Bowl caliber team but that doesn't happen in ONE YEAR.

You just made all my points to draft draft Geno Smith #1 thank you.

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