Chiefs Chiefs can rescind the tag on Albert - Page 3

**FRCDFED** · 03-05-2013, 09:22 AM

I thought I saw a comment yesterday that Albert could hold out if he thought there was a chance they were going to have him play guard. I am in no way condoning that; however, it appears from this article that it would be in his best interest to sign his tender and show up.

13 fewer tags than last year

Posted by Mike Florio on March 5, 2013, 8:39 AM EST

The dust has settled on the franchise-tag designation period. Unlike last year, when 21 tags flew, only three were applied in 2013.

So what gives?

The easy explanation is that this year’s crop of players eligible for the tag wasn’t as good as last year’s. But it’s likely more complicated than that.

Ravens quarterback Joe Flacco would have been this year’s Drew Brees, if the Ravens had been willing or able to carry his exclusive franchise tender, like the Saints did last year with Brees. These deals get done on a deadline basis, and for the Ravens the real deadline was having to choose between two equally bad evils: more than $19 million under the exclusive tag or nearly $15 million under the non-exclusive tag, along with an opportunity for the Browns to try to steal the Super Bowl MVP.

The Titans got cold feet regarding the possibility of using the franchise tag on tight end Jared Cook. or he would have been No. 9. If he’d signed the offer and if he’d then won the inevitable grievance arguing that he’s a receiver, the Titans would have been paying Cook more in 2013 than they’ll be paying Chris Johnson.

The Titans could have instead used the tag on kicker Rob Bironas. Last year, the tag was applied to six punter/kickers. But with the market for kickers and punters expected to be soft this year, teams other than the Colts apparently opted not to invest nearly $3 million in a veteran, given that low-cost options like Blair Walsh and Greg Zeuerlein were floating in last year’s draft pool.

The biggest factor for the lack of tags could have been the salary cap. Even though the franchise tenders are now based on the five-year average cap percentage consumed by the five highest-paid players at each position, it becomes more difficult to give one large chunk of cap space to one player at a time when the total cap grew by only 0.5 percent in 2012 and 1.9 percent in 2013. For too many teams, the upward pressure of salary increases coupled with a relatively static total spending limit has made eight-figure salaries for non-superstar players a luxury that no longer can be afforded.

It should be no surprise, for example, that the Patriots didn’t use it. At a time when quarterback Tom Brady’s cap number will be $13.8 million, how could they justify tying up $10.8 million in cornerback Aqib Talib or $9.8 million in tackle Sebastian Vollmer or $11.4 million in receiver Wes Welker?

The next question is whether the one-year franchise tenders will become long-term deals. Teams have until July 15 to make that transformation.

If not, the players who have received the franchise tenders but who won’t be signing them any time soon need to worry about something that hasn’t happened in eight years: A team rescinding the tag.

Chiefs left tackle Branden Albert should be specifically concerned about that. After all, his new head coach, Andy Reid, did it twice in Philly, to defensive tackle Corey Simon in 2005 and to linebacker Jeremiah Trotter three years earlier. If/when the Chiefs take left tackle Luke Joeckel with the first pick in the 2013 draft, Albert may want to quickly put pen to paper for his $9.828 million salary, or the chance to do so may permanently evaporate.

Then, he would end up on the open market in May, long after the big money has flowed for the year.

Given the new realities of a cap-strapped NFL, that’s a real concern that every franchise player should now have.

**FRCDFED** · 03-05-2013, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Fish

He's already shown he can play at a high level. He is not damaged goods in any sense. These expectations you're putting on him are illogical.

Not at all. I have a back injury and although I don't get the level of medical care that I'm sure he does I can tell you that at the right angle it will show itself.

I like the idea of proving himself over the long term before giving the big contract. Like Albert said, he was a 1st round pick and has already made a lot of money. I know its not my money but I am tired of seeing millions wasted on people that play a sport. This is why ticket prices go up! (along with eleventy billion other reasons).

**The Franchise** · 03-05-2013, 11:02 AM

When has a back injury ever been brought up before 2012 for Albert?

He's missed games in the past because of an elbow injury and an ankle injury.

This reoccurring back issue is all bullshit.

**SAUTO** · 03-05-2013, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

When has a back injury ever been brought up before 2012 for Albert?

He's missed games in the past because of an elbow injury and an ankle injury.

This reoccurring back issue is all bullshit.

IMO that was what pioli was trying to use to low ball him

Fish · 03-05-2013, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by FRCDFED

Not at all. I have a back injury and although I don't get the level of medical care that I'm sure he does I can tell you that at the right angle it will show itself.

I like the idea of proving himself over the long term before giving the big contract. Like Albert said, he was a 1st round pick and has already made a lot of money. I know its not my money but I am tired of seeing millions wasted on people that play a sport. This is why ticket prices go up! (along with eleventy billion other reasons).

You're comparing your own back injury? LOLWUT? He's a professional athlete.

None of what you're saying makes sense. He's already proven. And his back has been such a minor issue that he has nothing to prove regarding it. The Chiefs made the right move. It's time to drop this reeruned mindset that the Chiefs need to draft tackles high every year.

**FRCDFED** · 03-05-2013, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

When has a back injury ever been brought up before 2012 for Albert?

He's missed games in the past because of an elbow injury and an ankle injury.

This reoccurring back issue is all bullshit.

Back injuries are a different breed of animal depending on where it is. Most are recurring unlike bone injuries.

**FRCDFED** · 03-05-2013, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Fish

You're comparing your own back injury? LOLWUT? He's a professional athlete.

I'm sorry. Is his back made of some special material that the rest of us don't get because we are not professionals? Get real. I mentioned that he had better medical care but we are not cars. If something breaks you can't just replace it.

Faddy Yomama · 03-05-2013, 11:13 AM

NO!!!!!!!!!! Luke Joeckel was a lock at #1 before this. Now there's a possibility of us taking ANOTHER 3-4 DEFENSIVE LINEMAN overall!!!!!!

Pasta Little Brioni · 03-05-2013, 11:14 AM

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**The Franchise** · 03-05-2013, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by FRCDFED

Back injuries are a different breed of animal depending on where it is. Most are recurring unlike bone injuries.

And where have you heard about this back injury before this year?

**FRCDFED** · 03-05-2013, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

And where have you heard about this back injury before this year?

I haven't/didn't. I am taking the reports at face value. There hasn't been anything to refute that an injury did not occur. I don't know the severity or location of the injury. Albert is saying that it is fine now. Whether that is posturing for a new contract we don't know. I am glad that they are taking a wait and see approach.

Fish · 03-05-2013, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRCDFED

I'm sorry. Is his back made of some special material that the rest of us don't get because we are not professionals? Get real. I mentioned that he had better medical care but we are not cars. If something breaks you can't just replace it.

Ignorant. He's paid millions of dollars per year. And his performance is directly dependent on his physical capabilities. He has the time and resources to dedicate to his physical abilities on a daily basis. A huge portion of his job responsibility is keeping that back healthy. Your own back injury is of no comparison. This is stupid Truefan criticism that has no basis in reality.

mr. tegu · 03-05-2013, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by FRCDFED

I haven't/didn't. I am taking the reports at face value. There hasn't been anything to refute that an injury did not occur. I don't know the severity or location of the injury. Albert is saying that it is fine now. Whether that is posturing for a new contract we don't know. I am glad that they are taking a wait and see approach.

The doctors who performed his physical said the same thing so...

Fish · 03-05-2013, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu

The doctors who performed his physical said the same thing so...

Nah... I'm sure they just take Albert's word for it...

Dorsey/Reid: So Branden, how's that back?

Albert: Feelin fine coach.

Dorsey/Reid: Good enough! Here's $10M. Sign here bud...

patteeu · 03-05-2013, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

I can't wait to hear the argument of.....

"The Chiefs should draft the future replacement of Albert at 1.1 and let him sit for a year."

Wait....can't they do that with a QB?

"Too risky."

If the Chiefs take an offensive lineman at 1.1, it's not likely that he'd sit. Both he and Albert would play unless he's a huge disappointment.

The Poz · 03-05-2013, 11:39 AM

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Sam Mellinger of KC Star on PFT Live says he believes there's a chance LT Branden Albert will be traded.

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