Chiefs Chiefs can rescind the tag on Albert - Page 5

**FRCDFED** · 03-05-2013, 09:22 AM

I thought I saw a comment yesterday that Albert could hold out if he thought there was a chance they were going to have him play guard. I am in no way condoning that; however, it appears from this article that it would be in his best interest to sign his tender and show up.

13 fewer tags than last year

Posted by Mike Florio on March 5, 2013, 8:39 AM EST

The dust has settled on the franchise-tag designation period. Unlike last year, when 21 tags flew, only three were applied in 2013.

So what gives?

The easy explanation is that this year’s crop of players eligible for the tag wasn’t as good as last year’s. But it’s likely more complicated than that.

Ravens quarterback Joe Flacco would have been this year’s Drew Brees, if the Ravens had been willing or able to carry his exclusive franchise tender, like the Saints did last year with Brees. These deals get done on a deadline basis, and for the Ravens the real deadline was having to choose between two equally bad evils: more than $19 million under the exclusive tag or nearly $15 million under the non-exclusive tag, along with an opportunity for the Browns to try to steal the Super Bowl MVP.

The Titans got cold feet regarding the possibility of using the franchise tag on tight end Jared Cook. or he would have been No. 9. If he’d signed the offer and if he’d then won the inevitable grievance arguing that he’s a receiver, the Titans would have been paying Cook more in 2013 than they’ll be paying Chris Johnson.

The Titans could have instead used the tag on kicker Rob Bironas. Last year, the tag was applied to six punter/kickers. But with the market for kickers and punters expected to be soft this year, teams other than the Colts apparently opted not to invest nearly $3 million in a veteran, given that low-cost options like Blair Walsh and Greg Zeuerlein were floating in last year’s draft pool.

The biggest factor for the lack of tags could have been the salary cap. Even though the franchise tenders are now based on the five-year average cap percentage consumed by the five highest-paid players at each position, it becomes more difficult to give one large chunk of cap space to one player at a time when the total cap grew by only 0.5 percent in 2012 and 1.9 percent in 2013. For too many teams, the upward pressure of salary increases coupled with a relatively static total spending limit has made eight-figure salaries for non-superstar players a luxury that no longer can be afforded.

It should be no surprise, for example, that the Patriots didn’t use it. At a time when quarterback Tom Brady’s cap number will be $13.8 million, how could they justify tying up $10.8 million in cornerback Aqib Talib or $9.8 million in tackle Sebastian Vollmer or $11.4 million in receiver Wes Welker?

The next question is whether the one-year franchise tenders will become long-term deals. Teams have until July 15 to make that transformation.

If not, the players who have received the franchise tenders but who won’t be signing them any time soon need to worry about something that hasn’t happened in eight years: A team rescinding the tag.

Chiefs left tackle Branden Albert should be specifically concerned about that. After all, his new head coach, Andy Reid, did it twice in Philly, to defensive tackle Corey Simon in 2005 and to linebacker Jeremiah Trotter three years earlier. If/when the Chiefs take left tackle Luke Joeckel with the first pick in the 2013 draft, Albert may want to quickly put pen to paper for his $9.828 million salary, or the chance to do so may permanently evaporate.

Then, he would end up on the open market in May, long after the big money has flowed for the year.

Given the new realities of a cap-strapped NFL, that’s a real concern that every franchise player should now have.

patteeu · 03-05-2013, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu

Would it make it better? Sure. Significantly better? No. A waste of a pick? Absolutely.

I understood your opinion. Like I said, I don't accept it.

Pasta Little Brioni · 03-05-2013, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

Past picks are sunk costs. They shouldn't affect future decisions except to the extent that they may still have lingering effects on cash and cap salary.

It matters when they are quality/young/acending players. We have a damn good line and Albert/Allen/Hudson/Asamoah/Winston all are worthy of starting spots next year. Sure Allen was lackluster, but deserves more PT before rotting the bench so soon.

Are you one of the dumb****s that thinks the line was the problem last year?

**The Franchise** · 03-05-2013, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

This is still a low football IQ take.

No it's not.....if you think that the OG position is the weakest link on this football team....then you take Chance Warmack. You don't take Luke Joeckel and hope that he becomes a great OG.

Fish · 03-05-2013, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

We could be better. The only question is whether or not it's worth the sacrifice. I understand that you don't think so.

Every team in the league could be better. And obviously it's not worth it, because we don't see a majority of teams throwing vast resources at the OLine. Look at the depth of the Superbowl teams you referenced... Who's the backup LT for the Ravens?

htismaqe · 03-05-2013, 12:12 PM

Draft Joeckel and move him to guard?

Pat, you should stick to politics. You know jack shit about football.

**Saul Good** · 03-05-2013, 12:15 PM

Didn't pat win the gambling pick em challenge a few years ago?

Sassy Squatch · 03-05-2013, 12:16 PM

Warmack would be the pick if we wanted an OG. Lets not do that though..

htismaqe · 03-05-2013, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Didn't pat win the gambling pick em challenge a few years ago?

Do I ****ing care?

Picking games doesn't equate to football knowledge.

patteeu · 03-05-2013, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM

It matters when they are quality/young/acending players. We have a damn good line and Albert/Allen/Hudson/Asamoah/Winston all are worthy of starting spots next year. Sure Allen was lackluster, but deserves more PT before rotting the bench so soon.

Are you one of the dumb****s that thinks the line was the problem last year?

No, it doesn't matter. If they suck they need to be replaced no matter what round they were picked in and if they're great they don't need to be replaced even if they were UDFA.

I'm one of the dumb****s who thinks the line is important and that it's long term quality should be treated as a high priority. I'm not one of the dumb****s who thinks he knows that Geno Smith is a can't miss prospect or who thinks he knows that Luke Joeckel is the best player in the draft.

htismaqe · 03-05-2013, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

No, it doesn't matter. If they suck they need to be replaced no matter what round they were picked in and if they're great they don't need to be replaced even if they were UDFA.

I'm one of the dumb****s who thinks the line is important and that it's long term quality should be treated as a high priority. I'm not one of the dumb****s who thinks he knows that Geno Smith is a can't miss prospect or who thinks he knows that Luke Joeckel is the best player in the draft.

You're just a dumb****.

Period.

**The Franchise** · 03-05-2013, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu

No, it doesn't matter. If they suck they need to be replaced no matter what round they were picked in and if they're great they don't need to be replaced even if they were UDFA.

I'm one of the dumb****s who thinks the line is important and that it's long term quality should be treated as a high priority. I'm not one of the dumb****s who thinks he knows that Geno Smith is a can't miss prospect or who thinks he knows that Luke Joeckel is the best player in the draft.

Who sucked last year and needs to be replaced?

patteeu · 03-05-2013, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

No it's not.....if you think that the OG position is the weakest link on this football team....then you take Chance Warmack. You don't take Luke Joeckel and hope that he becomes a great OG.

My understanding is that Chance Warmack is less likely to be LTotF than Joeckel or one of the other top tackle prospects in the draft. This pick should be made with the future in mind, not just 2013.

patteeu · 03-05-2013, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Draft Joeckel and move him to guard?

Pat, you should stick to politics. You know jack shit about football.

I'm the dumb**** who can read.

ChiefsCountry · 03-05-2013, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Who sucked last year and needs to be replaced?

I would assume the rookie who played guard for the first time.

htismaqe · 03-05-2013, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu

I'm the dumb**** who can read.

03-05-2013, 09:22 AM
FRCDFED Line'em up Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: somewhere out there Casino cash: $8976297	Chiefs can rescind the tag on Albert I thought I saw a comment yesterday that Albert could hold out if he thought there was a chance they were going to have him play guard. I am in no way condoning that; however, it appears from this article that it would be in his best interest to sign his tender and show up. 13 fewer tags than last year Posted by Mike Florio on March 5, 2013, 8:39 AM EST The dust has settled on the franchise-tag designation period. Unlike last year, when 21 tags flew, only three were applied in 2013. So what gives? The easy explanation is that this year’s crop of players eligible for the tag wasn’t as good as last year’s. But it’s likely more complicated than that. Ravens quarterback Joe Flacco would have been this year’s Drew Brees, if the Ravens had been willing or able to carry his exclusive franchise tender, like the Saints did last year with Brees. These deals get done on a deadline basis, and for the Ravens the real deadline was having to choose between two equally bad evils: more than $19 million under the exclusive tag or nearly $15 million under the non-exclusive tag, along with an opportunity for the Browns to try to steal the Super Bowl MVP. The Titans got cold feet regarding the possibility of using the franchise tag on tight end Jared Cook. or he would have been No. 9. If he’d signed the offer and if he’d then won the inevitable grievance arguing that he’s a receiver, the Titans would have been paying Cook more in 2013 than they’ll be paying Chris Johnson. The Titans could have instead used the tag on kicker Rob Bironas. Last year, the tag was applied to six punter/kickers. But with the market for kickers and punters expected to be soft this year, teams other than the Colts apparently opted not to invest nearly $3 million in a veteran, given that low-cost options like Blair Walsh and Greg Zeuerlein were floating in last year’s draft pool. The biggest factor for the lack of tags could have been the salary cap. Even though the franchise tenders are now based on the five-year average cap percentage consumed by the five highest-paid players at each position, it becomes more difficult to give one large chunk of cap space to one player at a time when the total cap grew by only 0.5 percent in 2012 and 1.9 percent in 2013. For too many teams, the upward pressure of salary increases coupled with a relatively static total spending limit has made eight-figure salaries for non-superstar players a luxury that no longer can be afforded. It should be no surprise, for example, that the Patriots didn’t use it. At a time when quarterback Tom Brady’s cap number will be $13.8 million, how could they justify tying up $10.8 million in cornerback Aqib Talib or $9.8 million in tackle Sebastian Vollmer or $11.4 million in receiver Wes Welker? The next question is whether the one-year franchise tenders will become long-term deals. Teams have until July 15 to make that transformation. If not, the players who have received the franchise tenders but who won’t be signing them any time soon need to worry about something that hasn’t happened in eight years: A team rescinding the tag. Chiefs left tackle Branden Albert should be specifically concerned about that. After all, his new head coach, Andy Reid, did it twice in Philly, to defensive tackle Corey Simon in 2005 and to linebacker Jeremiah Trotter three years earlier. If/when the Chiefs take left tackle Luke Joeckel with the first pick in the 2013 draft, Albert may want to quickly put pen to paper for his $9.828 million salary, or the chance to do so may permanently evaporate. Then, he would end up on the open market in May, long after the big money has flowed for the year. Given the new realities of a cap-strapped NFL, that’s a real concern that every franchise player should now have.
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